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Those same elevated controls are used to steal PII and sell to data brokers. Again, it's the companies that are trying to force apps on their users. If it were

by pphysch 9mo ago

Those same elevated controls are used to steal PII and sell to data brokers. Again, it's the companies that are trying to force apps on their users. If it were genuinely a much better UX, they wouldn't have to do that.

xnyan 9mo ago
I don’t think you are correct, but I could be wrong. For example, can you replicate the functionality of TikTok - autoplay unmuted videos as the user scroll down to new videos? It’s the experience that the user expects.
- mrguyorama 9mo ago
  I'm sorry but why do you think this can't be done in a website?
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- peaseagee 9mo ago
  I use FB via my web browser (Firefox on Android) and when I look at Shorts, it has this exact functionality. Web browsers on mobile can do this, clearly.
  - hermanzegerman 9mo ago
    The Android Browser isn't as crippled as the iOS one. Watch a full screen video on Safari and tap a few times on different places on the screen and you will get a notification about "Typing is not allowed in Full-Screen" or some other nonsense
- dwaite 9mo ago
  Sure, once the user interacts with the first video. If third party native apps were installed and run without user interaction the same as cross-origin redirects, I would expect the same limitations with native apps.
- kcrwfrd_ 9mo ago
  Yes I literally worked on a PWA with this exact feature. I believe you can see it working on TikTok web as well. You just can’t have the first video unmuted on initial load, although I wonder if this can be relaxed when user installs a PWA.
- rpdillon 9mo ago
  I've probably deleted 15 apps from my phone in the past year as I steadily move over to the web for everything. My chat agent, file transfer tool, Grubhub, Amazon, YouTube, news, weather are all deleted in favor of a set of armored browsers that suppress the trash and clean up the experience. Its been an amazing change, as those companies no longer get a free advertisement on the application grid of my phone, making my use of them much more intentional.

by pphysch 9mo ago

xnyan 9mo ago

I don’t think you are correct, but I could be wrong. For example, can you replicate the functionality of TikTok - autoplay unmuted videos as the user scroll down to new videos? It’s the experience that the user expects.

mrguyorama 9mo ago
I'm sorry but why do you think this can't be done in a website?
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peaseagee 9mo ago
I use FB via my web browser (Firefox on Android) and when I look at Shorts, it has this exact functionality. Web browsers on mobile can do this, clearly.
- hermanzegerman 9mo ago
  The Android Browser isn't as crippled as the iOS one. Watch a full screen video on Safari and tap a few times on different places on the screen and you will get a notification about "Typing is not allowed in Full-Screen" or some other nonsense
dwaite 9mo ago
Sure, once the user interacts with the first video. If third party native apps were installed and run without user interaction the same as cross-origin redirects, I would expect the same limitations with native apps.
kcrwfrd_ 9mo ago
Yes I literally worked on a PWA with this exact feature. I believe you can see it working on TikTok web as well. You just can’t have the first video unmuted on initial load, although I wonder if this can be relaxed when user installs a PWA.
rpdillon 9mo ago
I've probably deleted 15 apps from my phone in the past year as I steadily move over to the web for everything. My chat agent, file transfer tool, Grubhub, Amazon, YouTube, news, weather are all deleted in favor of a set of armored browsers that suppress the trash and clean up the experience. Its been an amazing change, as those companies no longer get a free advertisement on the application grid of my phone, making my use of them much more intentional.