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> And they even suck at making cars these days Aren’t model Y and model 3 considered the best cars in their class by most motor journalists?
by usaphp 8mo ago
> And they even suck at making cars these days
Aren’t model Y and model 3 considered the best cars in their class by most motor journalists?
- Arainach 8mo agoNo, not by a long shot, unless you define "class" so tightly as to only include those vehicles and no competitors.
- apublicfrog 8mo agoWhat would you define as better? I rent various EVs regularly, and I'm still yet to find something that beats it on performance, range and price. That's all before comfort and features, which again most seem to lack. There are a couple pretty close to Tesla, but nothing that clearly beats it that I've driven.
- verzali 8mo agoHave you ever tried a BYD?
- apublicfrog 8mo agoYes, I've rented them on many occasions and they are worse on range, comfort and acceleration. They have that cheap, plasticy Camry feel, and depending on the model they have two different screens that are out of sync with each other.
- Arainach 8mo agoIn the US market, the Hyundai Ioniq 6 has better build quality, identical range in real world conditions, a ton of comfort, and no threat that their CEO will go off his meds and take away your driving assist features unless you pay a ~~ransom~~ subscription fee. Internationally, BYD destroys it.
- apublicfrog 8mo agoIoniq 6: Range: 429km Price: $70,116 AUD Performance: 0-100 5.1s Tesla model 3: Range: 520km Price: $59,979 AUD Performance: 0-100 6.1s It's pretty hard to argue like for like here. I've driven the Ioniq before and it's fine, but it looks and feels like a 2015 Mazda inside. BYD is worse in every category, I have no idea what you're talking about.
- theshrike79 8mo agoAs a car? Anything. Hyundai Ioniq 5 for example. As a computer? Not many to be honest. Dog Mode is an afternoon project for a junior programmer and still _ZERO_ car manufacturers have copied it.
- cogman10 8mo agoTesla's greatest strength is/was that they did almost everything inhouse. The reason all the other manufacturers struggle to do basic things like dog mode is because they are almost all relying on the supply chain for everything. No infotainment/HVAC supplier has a dog mode so it doesn't exist. The obvious downside to that is that when Tesla cuts back on R&D, it becomes painfully obvious to the car owners. I'm not expecting anything like dog mode to show up ever again.
- bmitc 8mo agoNo. They are consistently rated low, particularly in safety and reliability.