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Yes, that is what I am asserting. The quoted paper says the same thing: > A more troubling question, the authors acknowledge, regards the white students whom

by Supreme 14y ago

Yes, that is what I am asserting. The quoted paper says the same thing: > A more troubling question, the authors acknowledge, regards the white students whom these black students displaced.

charleshaanel 14y ago
Lol. Do you actually know one woman of color in technology? Perhaps you should consider speaking to one (or several) over theories you read in a journal (we all know how objective every single academic paper one reads is). Everyone reading this knows you have never had one single conversation with a black/native american/latino woman of color in technology. I'm sure your next comment will be something like "that's irrelevant". You remind me of Americans who don't have a passport yet go on and on about how "under-developed" the rest of the world is. And by the way, do you know how many women and/or people of color are on this forum? They continue to stay anonymous because of comments like those you make. Quite frankly what I sense in your comments is nothing short of fear. Fear that the status quo is being disrupted. And guess what? It is.
- gizmo686 14y ago
  > Everyone reading this knows you have never had one single conversation with a black/native american/latino woman of color in technology. Hey, someone reading that here. I am mildly offended by your claim that I know Supreme never talked to a black/native american/latino woman of color in technology. What I did read from his posts is that a program exclusively for black girls is racist and sexist. Given that the program takes people based on their race and sex, I do not see how that claim is controversial. The solution to race/gender inequality may or may not be strategic racism/sexism. However, pointing out when something is racism/sexism, and suggesting that forbidding all forms of racism/sexism might be a better approach hardly sounds unreasonable. What I would like to see happen is have legal protection against groups from engaging in discriminatory actions (on 'irrelevant' metrics, which would need to be determined but almost definitely includes race and sex). Yes, that would make this group (as I understand it) illegal. What we could have is a group that targets underprivileged areas, that may or may not be disproportional high in some group of people. The problem with the group currently (as I understand them) is that if someone who is not a black girl, but does have a similar disadvantage in life wanted to join, they would not be permitted (or have a high barrier to entry).
- Supreme 14y ago
  Since "of color" is inclusive of all non-whites, yes, I do.

by Supreme 14y ago

Yes, that is what I am asserting. The quoted paper says the same thing: > A more troubling question, the authors acknowledge, regards the white students whom these black students displaced.

charleshaanel 14y ago

Lol. Do you actually know one woman of color in technology? Perhaps you should consider speaking to one (or several) over theories you read in a journal (we all know how objective every single academic paper one reads is). Everyone reading this knows you have never had one single conversation with a black/native american/latino woman of color in technology. I'm sure your next comment will be something like "that's irrelevant". You remind me of Americans who don't have a passport yet go on and on about how "under-developed" the rest of the world is. And by the way, do you know how many women and/or people of color are on this forum? They continue to stay anonymous because of comments like those you make. Quite frankly what I sense in your comments is nothing short of fear. Fear that the status quo is being disrupted. And guess what? It is.

gizmo686 14y ago
> Everyone reading this knows you have never had one single conversation with a black/native american/latino woman of color in technology. Hey, someone reading that here. I am mildly offended by your claim that I know Supreme never talked to a black/native american/latino woman of color in technology. What I did read from his posts is that a program exclusively for black girls is racist and sexist. Given that the program takes people based on their race and sex, I do not see how that claim is controversial. The solution to race/gender inequality may or may not be strategic racism/sexism. However, pointing out when something is racism/sexism, and suggesting that forbidding all forms of racism/sexism might be a better approach hardly sounds unreasonable. What I would like to see happen is have legal protection against groups from engaging in discriminatory actions (on 'irrelevant' metrics, which would need to be determined but almost definitely includes race and sex). Yes, that would make this group (as I understand it) illegal. What we could have is a group that targets underprivileged areas, that may or may not be disproportional high in some group of people. The problem with the group currently (as I understand them) is that if someone who is not a black girl, but does have a similar disadvantage in life wanted to join, they would not be permitted (or have a high barrier to entry).
Supreme 14y ago
Since "of color" is inclusive of all non-whites, yes, I do.