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Who? They are complaining that sanctuary cities' local police are not cooperating. Who else are you suggesting has the necessary expertise?

SR2Z 9mo ago
Perhaps if they cannot carry out their goals without hurting people, the answer is "take a step back" and not "hurt people."
- tstrimple 9mo ago
  This is beyond naive at this point. The objective is to hurt people. Republican voters have repeatedly explicitly asked for it. There's a reason they flocked to Trump. Cruelty is the point. It's astounding the number of people still so credulous wrt what is happening in this country. You have "Christian" preachers talking about empathy being a sin for fucks sake. Like how can people maintain this sort of ignorance into 2026? And I don't mean this towards you necessarily. I get some people are still entertaining folks who will never participate in a conversation in good faith because it might influence ignorant observers who stumble across the conversation. But does that ever actually play out? How much time is wasted on people of obvious bad faith? How much time has been wasted on the Shapiros, the Kirks, the Tuckers of the world? The random HN commenter who drops obvious bullshit before disappearing to never be heard from again? You cannot out earnest people flooding the zone with bullshit.
deepsun 9mo ago
Well, if local police is not cooperating then it's as designed by the constitution (states have the authority to police), to not give federal government powers to make the country a police state. Feature, not a bug. Federals should discuss and persuade the state and their police.
- dylan604 9mo ago
  Nobody said the police are not policing. They have their own jobs and not there to do the bidding of the federal government. You're saying this like the local authorities are meant to drop what they are doing at the drop of dime because the feds have a request. These are not dangerous criminals that require a timely response before causing more harm. These are people trying to live their lives and it will not harm the rest of the citizens by doing immigration enforcement at a slower pace.
  - pseudalopex 9mo ago
    Did you not notice chasil and deepsun were different accounts?
    - dylan604 9mo ago
      What does that have to do with my response to the comment I replied?
      - pseudalopex 9mo ago
        Your reply to deepsun made no sense as reply to deepsun. You said You're saying this like the local authorities are meant to drop what they are doing at the drop of dime because the feds have a request. But deepsun said the opposite almost.
defrost 9mo ago
MN police are delivering criminals with no citizenship status to ICE / DHS though. They have not been supporting ICE on warrentless invasions, fishing expeditions, assaulting local citizens.
- dylan604 9mo ago
  Surely, you're not saying that the feds are saying things that are counter to what's actually happening on the ground, are you? /s At this point, you just have to assume the truth is exactly the opposite of what the feds are saying. How do you know a fed is lying...their mouth is moving.
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_DeadFred_ 9mo ago
Minnesota had to waste taxpayer dollars and setup a website to disprove this BS. https://mn.gov/doc/about/news/combatting-dhs-misinformation/ https://mn.gov/doc/about/news/combatting-dhs-misinformation/

SR2Z 9mo ago

Perhaps if they cannot carry out their goals without hurting people, the answer is "take a step back" and not "hurt people."

tstrimple 9mo ago
This is beyond naive at this point. The objective is to hurt people. Republican voters have repeatedly explicitly asked for it. There's a reason they flocked to Trump. Cruelty is the point. It's astounding the number of people still so credulous wrt what is happening in this country. You have "Christian" preachers talking about empathy being a sin for fucks sake. Like how can people maintain this sort of ignorance into 2026? And I don't mean this towards you necessarily. I get some people are still entertaining folks who will never participate in a conversation in good faith because it might influence ignorant observers who stumble across the conversation. But does that ever actually play out? How much time is wasted on people of obvious bad faith? How much time has been wasted on the Shapiros, the Kirks, the Tuckers of the world? The random HN commenter who drops obvious bullshit before disappearing to never be heard from again? You cannot out earnest people flooding the zone with bullshit.

deepsun 9mo ago

Well, if local police is not cooperating then it's as designed by the constitution (states have the authority to police), to not give federal government powers to make the country a police state. Feature, not a bug. Federals should discuss and persuade the state and their police.

dylan604 9mo ago
Nobody said the police are not policing. They have their own jobs and not there to do the bidding of the federal government. You're saying this like the local authorities are meant to drop what they are doing at the drop of dime because the feds have a request. These are not dangerous criminals that require a timely response before causing more harm. These are people trying to live their lives and it will not harm the rest of the citizens by doing immigration enforcement at a slower pace.
- pseudalopex 9mo ago
  Did you not notice chasil and deepsun were different accounts?
  - dylan604 9mo ago
    What does that have to do with my response to the comment I replied?
    - pseudalopex 9mo ago
      Your reply to deepsun made no sense as reply to deepsun. You said You're saying this like the local authorities are meant to drop what they are doing at the drop of dime because the feds have a request. But deepsun said the opposite almost.

defrost 9mo ago

MN police are delivering criminals with no citizenship status to ICE / DHS though. They have not been supporting ICE on warrentless invasions, fishing expeditions, assaulting local citizens.

dylan604 9mo ago
Surely, you're not saying that the feds are saying things that are counter to what's actually happening on the ground, are you? /s At this point, you just have to assume the truth is exactly the opposite of what the feds are saying. How do you know a fed is lying...their mouth is moving.
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_DeadFred_ 9mo ago

Minnesota had to waste taxpayer dollars and setup a website to disprove this BS. https://mn.gov/doc/about/news/combatting-dhs-misinformation/ https://mn.gov/doc/about/news/combatting-dhs-misinformation/