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Me? I'm working to help people get elected to Congress to help regulate this mess.
by shimman 9mo ago
Me? I'm working to help people get elected to Congress to help regulate this mess.
- pixl97 9mo agoAt the end of the day Apple is doing their damnedest to force the requirement to support other app stores. They want their cake, and they want to eat it too. Unfortunately they are going to make an epic fuckton of money before they get told to stop.
- nout 9mo agoWhy would you want to give the government such power? That always amazes me... when there is an issue, people jump on "let's vote for government to regulate this", but then they are surprised when a new government gets to power and uses this new regulation/capability against you.
- mattnewton 9mo agothere is little other remedy to monopoly power?
- pessimizer 9mo agoI want them to use antitrust regulation against everyone, including me. That's what having values is like. Markets without competition degenerate. Markets are also artificial and always rely on government enforcement to exist - Apple sues people who try to get around its market manipulation. You just prefer that governments help enforce trusts and destroy competition that those trusts denote as unfair.
- bigstrat2003 9mo ago> Markets are also artificial and always rely on government enforcement to exist - Apple sues people who try to get around its market manipulation. Historically, markets are destroyed by government interference, not propped up by it. Your own example is a case in point: were it not for the government making laws in favor of entrenched companies, Apple couldn't sue the people trying to get around its market manipulation. > You just prefer that governments help enforce trusts and destroy competition that those trusts denote as unfair. This is a grossly unfair mischaracterization of the post you are replying to. Bad show, old chap.
- cyberax 9mo agoApple doesn't _need_ to sue people. They can just stop distributing their apps. That's it. No "government monopoly" or anything, just regular commercial monopolism.
- leptons 9mo agohttps://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1344546/dl?inline https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1344546/dl?inline Apple is already getting sued by the DOJ for their abusive business practices. They should be regulated.
- cephi 9mo agoI may regret asking but what is your solution, then?
- weberer 9mo agoUse Android
- johnnyanmac 9mo agoThat's only a solution until Google does the same. And then we're stuck. What do we do when the two largest phone platforms perform this stuff? Go off the grid instead of talking to our representatives?
- nout 9mo agoWhat about web app? Or desktop?
- anonymous908213 9mo agoAndroid is actively in the process of trying to kill off the ability to install your own software that is not Google-approved, so this is temporary solution at best.
- johnisgood 9mo agoWell, since everything seems to be getting worse, lots of good stuff are a temporary solution. Kinda sucks.
- socalgal2 9mo agoThat is the user's solution. Patreon (the company having trouble with Apple) is not in the position to get ~50% of it's users to use a different phone. Apple should not be allowed to be in the middle of business and half the users of the world. And yes, that is very much something that governments have regulated for decades. In fact it's basically why anti-trust was invented. Train companies and deals with Standard Oil meant together they controlled the market since if you didn't go through them you couldn't ship your product.
- johnnyanmac 9mo ago>Why would you want to give the government such power? Because the government is the only body equipped to create and enforce consumer rights laws. Do you think we'd have refund policies if the government didn't regulate them? >then they are surprised when a new government gets to power and uses this new regulation/capability against you. Okay. How is the act of forbidding platforms from banning alternative payment processors going to backfire?
- shimman 9mo ago[flagged]
- chuneezy 9mo agoBravo!
- dyauspitr 9mo agoThere is so much stuff that needs to get fixed in congress over this issue is even a blip on the radar.
- shimman 9mo agoTrue but people need to understand there is a wide public acceptance on this issue. No one likes big tech fleecing both users and businesses alike, people want action. If you aren't collectively organizing to exert toward this action how do you honestly expect things to get better? Because the opposition has no issue throwing hundreds of millions behind a super pac to enact the law as they see fit. It doesn't have to be like this. Also, contrary to current political environments, Congress is more than capable of doing multiple things as once.
- pxoe 9mo agoTech companies are involved in lobbying, so maybe it's not as irrelevant or unconnected as you might think. Fees are how they make the money that goes into it.