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This is overestimating the amount of effort involved to game on Linux, imo. It is true that there are a couple games using kernel-level anticheat which preclude

This is overestimating the amount of effort involved to game on Linux, imo. It is true that there are a couple games using kernel-level anticheat which preclude their working on linux, but for the most part the effort required to play games on Linux now is zero if it's a Steam game and almost zero elsewhere.

some_random 8mo ago
Rust on Linux only works for Linux based servers https://www.protondb.com/app/252490 https://www.protondb.com/app/252490 Apex Legend used to work but doesn't anymore (still marked Silver) https://www.protondb.com/app/1172470 https://www.protondb.com/app/1172470 Delta Force used to work but also doesn't anymore (still marked Bronze), people are tinkering with config files but nothing seems to work https://www.protondb.com/app/2507950 https://www.protondb.com/app/2507950 NARAKA: BLADEPOINT is working but requires custom Proton, some tweaked settings, launch options, etc https://www.protondb.com/app/1203220 https://www.protondb.com/app/1203220 GTA V public lobbies don't work, requires you to tweak launch options, disable battleeye anticheat, seems to just not work for some people. https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 BG3 also seems to require a custom Proton and tweaked settings for some people https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 It goes on and on these were just from the first few games sorted by player count. Much of the tweaking seems to be different person to person, sometimes it just works sometimes it's Nvidia's fault, sometimes it's something totally different. There's a "recommended for tinkerers" option for reviews. To be clear, every single one of these works right out of the box first time on Windows.
- godelski 8mo ago
  > but requires custom Proton, some tweaked settings, launch options, etc I was not shocked that that top comment mentioned they used Claude because the config line is dumb. The line is PROTON_DISABLE_D3D12=1 PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1 %command% -force-d3d11 Here's what they mean PROTON_DISABLE_D3D12: Disables DirectX12 There are also D3D11, D3D10, D3D9 options too PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1: Tells the game you have an AMD GPU instead of Nvidia The default setting is that Proton hides the GPU, so this option here is superfluous. -force-d3d11: forces usage of DirectX11 This is already going to happen because you disabled DirectX12 Here is the sane equivalent line PROTON_DISABLE_D3D12=1 %command% Alternatively %command% -force-d3d11 People are copy pasting settings and sharing but not actually looking at any docs. Disabling DirectX12 is going to give you a pretty good success rate of making a game work if it doesn't work out of the box. Here's a useful resource for understanding the settings. Use this before you ask the AI: https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom Also, let's be clear about what those rankings mean on ProtonDB Native: Just works i.e. Devs are cool Platinum: Just works (but is using Proton) i.e. Valve has got this shit handled Gold: Works but you either need to use proton experimental or change an option that someone has already figured out. i.e. Community has figured it out, Valve is tweaking. Note that many people are on Proton Experimental by default so possibly that's why it "just works" for them. Silver: Very likely to work with a setting someone has listed. i.e. Community and Valve working on it Bronze: People are figuring it out, leave it to your friends that know Linux i.e. Sorry, you're probably out of luck. Leave it to the tinkerers Borked: Publisher is actively working against the community. i.e. EA hates you I'm not trying to say everything works on Linux. It doesn't. But let's also not pretend that it is worse than it is. That's the same error in the other direction. Linux is not the right choice for everyone, but it is a good choice for many people. You're implying that 'clicking the cog icon > properties > and then copy pasting some text into a text box' is overly burdensome. To be frank, if you believe that then not only is Linux not for you, but neither are computers, and I really really am curious why you're on a website called "Hacker News".
  - some_random 8mo ago
    Yeah, this is why everyone has such a low opinion of Linux nerds.
    - godelski 8mo ago
      We're on Hacker News... If talking techy is annoying to you, you're on the wrong forum

some_random 8mo ago

Rust on Linux only works for Linux based servers https://www.protondb.com/app/252490 https://www.protondb.com/app/252490 Apex Legend used to work but doesn't anymore (still marked Silver) https://www.protondb.com/app/1172470 https://www.protondb.com/app/1172470 Delta Force used to work but also doesn't anymore (still marked Bronze), people are tinkering with config files but nothing seems to work https://www.protondb.com/app/2507950 https://www.protondb.com/app/2507950 NARAKA: BLADEPOINT is working but requires custom Proton, some tweaked settings, launch options, etc https://www.protondb.com/app/1203220 https://www.protondb.com/app/1203220 GTA V public lobbies don't work, requires you to tweak launch options, disable battleeye anticheat, seems to just not work for some people. https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 BG3 also seems to require a custom Proton and tweaked settings for some people https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 https://www.protondb.com/app/271590 It goes on and on these were just from the first few games sorted by player count. Much of the tweaking seems to be different person to person, sometimes it just works sometimes it's Nvidia's fault, sometimes it's something totally different. There's a "recommended for tinkerers" option for reviews. To be clear, every single one of these works right out of the box first time on Windows.

godelski 8mo ago
> but requires custom Proton, some tweaked settings, launch options, etc I was not shocked that that top comment mentioned they used Claude because the config line is dumb. The line is PROTON_DISABLE_D3D12=1 PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1 %command% -force-d3d11 Here's what they mean PROTON_DISABLE_D3D12: Disables DirectX12 There are also D3D11, D3D10, D3D9 options too PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=1: Tells the game you have an AMD GPU instead of Nvidia The default setting is that Proton hides the GPU, so this option here is superfluous. -force-d3d11: forces usage of DirectX11 This is already going to happen because you disabled DirectX12 Here is the sane equivalent line PROTON_DISABLE_D3D12=1 %command% Alternatively %command% -force-d3d11 People are copy pasting settings and sharing but not actually looking at any docs. Disabling DirectX12 is going to give you a pretty good success rate of making a game work if it doesn't work out of the box. Here's a useful resource for understanding the settings. Use this before you ask the AI: https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom Also, let's be clear about what those rankings mean on ProtonDB Native: Just works i.e. Devs are cool Platinum: Just works (but is using Proton) i.e. Valve has got this shit handled Gold: Works but you either need to use proton experimental or change an option that someone has already figured out. i.e. Community has figured it out, Valve is tweaking. Note that many people are on Proton Experimental by default so possibly that's why it "just works" for them. Silver: Very likely to work with a setting someone has listed. i.e. Community and Valve working on it Bronze: People are figuring it out, leave it to your friends that know Linux i.e. Sorry, you're probably out of luck. Leave it to the tinkerers Borked: Publisher is actively working against the community. i.e. EA hates you I'm not trying to say everything works on Linux. It doesn't. But let's also not pretend that it is worse than it is. That's the same error in the other direction. Linux is not the right choice for everyone, but it is a good choice for many people. You're implying that 'clicking the cog icon > properties > and then copy pasting some text into a text box' is overly burdensome. To be frank, if you believe that then not only is Linux not for you, but neither are computers, and I really really am curious why you're on a website called "Hacker News".
- some_random 8mo ago
  Yeah, this is why everyone has such a low opinion of Linux nerds.
  - godelski 8mo ago
    We're on Hacker News... If talking techy is annoying to you, you're on the wrong forum