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> What would you do in this situation? Follow the protocol. If you lose your nerves because of people blowing a whistle, you're in the wrong job. > Alex seeme

> What would you do in this situation? Follow the protocol. If you lose your nerves because of people blowing a whistle, you're in the wrong job. > Alex seemed to put hands on an officer Where do you see that? All I see is that he raised his left hand in a protective manner, likely to keep the agent at a distance and protect himself from the pepper spray. After that gesture he turns away from the agent to help the woman on the ground. That's when they grapple him from behind and wrestle him to the ground. At no point did Alex behave in a threatening way or physically attack an agent. The DHS report does not mention any threating behavior either.

kreetx 9mo ago
Clearly you're not on the wrong job. Find me some info materials on how cops need to be resistant to either mental or physical violence. I'm sure we'll get a longer investigation into this matter. But it just doesn't seem like a pre-planned killing because they could get away with it, but a tragic sequence of events that you so much wish to bend your way.
- spacechild1 9mo ago
  I'm not claiming that this was a pre-planned killing. But it was more than just a tragic sequence of events because the agents were very much at fault here. They behaved aggressively and obviously did not know how to properly deal with an ordinary protestor (who clearly was no threat to the agents at any point).
  - kreetx 9mo ago
    This is the ordinary protestor a little over a week before the event https://youtu.be/r0L9JUjcwo0?t=597 https://youtu.be/r0L9JUjcwo0?t=597. Alex had a gun with him. If he wanted to appear non-threatening he simply shouldn't have brought it to the event. I do maintain that this was an unfortunate sequence of events, but I think as this is investigated further, the guilt found on the officers will be small to none.
    - spacechild1 9mo ago
      > This is the ordinary protestor a little over a week before the event Wow, he kicked an ICE agent's car. The agents must have felt extremely threatened as they didn't even bother to arrest him... How is this relevant to the shooting again? > If he wanted to appear non-threatening he simply shouldn't have brought it to the event. Carrying a gun in a state that allows conceiled carrying cannot be considered a thread in itself. Alex did not behave in a threatening way at any point during that whole situation.
      - kreetx 9mo ago
        Say officers report that Alex was aggressive on the day he died but there is no video material. The events from a week ago support those statements, as clearly Alex is a man that is quite worked up and capable of physical aggression.

kreetx 9mo ago

Clearly you're not on the wrong job. Find me some info materials on how cops need to be resistant to either mental or physical violence. I'm sure we'll get a longer investigation into this matter. But it just doesn't seem like a pre-planned killing because they could get away with it, but a tragic sequence of events that you so much wish to bend your way.

spacechild1 9mo ago
I'm not claiming that this was a pre-planned killing. But it was more than just a tragic sequence of events because the agents were very much at fault here. They behaved aggressively and obviously did not know how to properly deal with an ordinary protestor (who clearly was no threat to the agents at any point).
- kreetx 9mo ago
  This is the ordinary protestor a little over a week before the event https://youtu.be/r0L9JUjcwo0?t=597 https://youtu.be/r0L9JUjcwo0?t=597. Alex had a gun with him. If he wanted to appear non-threatening he simply shouldn't have brought it to the event. I do maintain that this was an unfortunate sequence of events, but I think as this is investigated further, the guilt found on the officers will be small to none.
  - spacechild1 9mo ago
    > This is the ordinary protestor a little over a week before the event Wow, he kicked an ICE agent's car. The agents must have felt extremely threatened as they didn't even bother to arrest him... How is this relevant to the shooting again? > If he wanted to appear non-threatening he simply shouldn't have brought it to the event. Carrying a gun in a state that allows conceiled carrying cannot be considered a thread in itself. Alex did not behave in a threatening way at any point during that whole situation.
    - kreetx 9mo ago
      Say officers report that Alex was aggressive on the day he died but there is no video material. The events from a week ago support those statements, as clearly Alex is a man that is quite worked up and capable of physical aggression.