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Your version seems to be that they randomly opened fire. Another version is that a gun went off, not all of the officers knew where the victims gun was, they ha

by kreetx 9mo ago

Your version seems to be that they randomly opened fire. Another version is that a gun went off, not all of the officers knew where the victims gun was, they had also heard someone yell "gun", so after the first shot they opened fire. It's not that you can be shot at by law enforcement when you are carrying a gun, but that you can be shot at when there is an apparent reason that you are firing at them with it. I'm sure ICE isn't happy about how the events turned out either. But for the protesters: just don't bring a gun!

ok_dad 9mo ago
if the pigs are so scared of guns they should quit. i was a trained military security officer and i never just drew my gun and shot a guy because i heard a word shouted that was scary. also: we have a 2nd amendment right to carry guns melt ice.
- kreetx 9mo ago
  Perhaps you are an exception but almost all people are afraid of death. If a person opposing you has a gun then most people get scared. I'm not debating 2nd amendment. But if you bring a gun to an event already filled with law enforcement, what is your intention?
  - 0dayz 8mo ago
    To have your constitutional rights to bear arms even at a protest or where does it say doubt shall not carry rifle when in assembly? On top of this are you willing to condemn the anti government protests done by tea party, anti covid lock down and j6 rioters? At least you'll be consistent.
    - kreetx 8mo ago
      Sure you have, but carrying a gun also comes with both responsibility, and also may be interpreted that you would use the weapon. To be clear, I'm not arguing the point that it's illegal to carry a gun to a protest, but that it's just not wise.
      - 0dayz 8mo ago
        Then why even make the statement? Your point about that it's not wise to have a gun on you or flee is completely irrelevant to fact that official officers killed people for it. Why also not state that it's unwise to go outside because you might be killed by a police officer? And again was it unwise for tea party, anti government lock down and j6 rioters to have guns on them?
        kreetx 8mo ago
        This video also mentions a likely accidental go-off of the weapon https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_ https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_ I mention it because it it isopined to be likely. We'll hopefully eventually know what whent off and why.
        0dayz 8mo ago
        And this video is not a video showcasing a clear analysis of what happen as the man in the video is biased against the victim considering his political background and views. So sure lying is an opinion you are correct about that, if I say you're a pedophile because you hugged a kid that is just stating a opinion.
        kreetx 8mo ago
        Ah, there appears to be video material indicating Pretti's gun going off: https://youtu.be/JFSBPEQYSFE?si=hWz6bthbUtOmprhh https://youtu.be/JFSBPEQYSFE?si=hWz6bthbUtOmprhh
  - ok_dad 8mo ago
    Like I said, if the pigs are scared of doing their jobs properly then they should quit.
    - kreetx 8mo ago
      Pretty sure cops in general get scared similar to how normal people do.
      - ok_dad 8mo ago
        In the military we were trained day after day to respond to threats logically rather than emotionally. Cops should be held to similar standards.
0dayz 8mo ago
All your post is showing is that you haven't watched the video. So at least stop lying and spreading an alternative fantasy world. On top of this you didn't answer the question: is now any person killed by an officer justified if they got a legal gun on them? There is no gun shot before the ice office opens fire in any of the 5 different angles of footage we got. And not only that you change the story midway, first it was heard a gun shit now it's being shot at. And the guy shooting clearly saw the gun as it was right next to him. The mental gymnastics you display is worthy of Olympic gold I'll give you that.

by kreetx 9mo ago

ok_dad 9mo ago

if the pigs are so scared of guns they should quit. i was a trained military security officer and i never just drew my gun and shot a guy because i heard a word shouted that was scary. also: we have a 2nd amendment right to carry guns melt ice.

kreetx 9mo ago
Perhaps you are an exception but almost all people are afraid of death. If a person opposing you has a gun then most people get scared. I'm not debating 2nd amendment. But if you bring a gun to an event already filled with law enforcement, what is your intention?
- 0dayz 8mo ago
  To have your constitutional rights to bear arms even at a protest or where does it say doubt shall not carry rifle when in assembly? On top of this are you willing to condemn the anti government protests done by tea party, anti covid lock down and j6 rioters? At least you'll be consistent.
  - kreetx 8mo ago
    Sure you have, but carrying a gun also comes with both responsibility, and also may be interpreted that you would use the weapon. To be clear, I'm not arguing the point that it's illegal to carry a gun to a protest, but that it's just not wise.
    - 0dayz 8mo ago
      Then why even make the statement? Your point about that it's not wise to have a gun on you or flee is completely irrelevant to fact that official officers killed people for it. Why also not state that it's unwise to go outside because you might be killed by a police officer? And again was it unwise for tea party, anti government lock down and j6 rioters to have guns on them?
      - kreetx 8mo ago
        This video also mentions a likely accidental go-off of the weapon https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_ https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_ I mention it because it it isopined to be likely. We'll hopefully eventually know what whent off and why.
        0dayz 8mo ago
        And this video is not a video showcasing a clear analysis of what happen as the man in the video is biased against the victim considering his political background and views. So sure lying is an opinion you are correct about that, if I say you're a pedophile because you hugged a kid that is just stating a opinion.
      - kreetx 8mo ago
        Ah, there appears to be video material indicating Pretti's gun going off: https://youtu.be/JFSBPEQYSFE?si=hWz6bthbUtOmprhh https://youtu.be/JFSBPEQYSFE?si=hWz6bthbUtOmprhh
- ok_dad 8mo ago
  Like I said, if the pigs are scared of doing their jobs properly then they should quit.
  - kreetx 8mo ago
    Pretty sure cops in general get scared similar to how normal people do.
    - ok_dad 8mo ago
      In the military we were trained day after day to respond to threats logically rather than emotionally. Cops should be held to similar standards.

0dayz 8mo ago

All your post is showing is that you haven't watched the video. So at least stop lying and spreading an alternative fantasy world. On top of this you didn't answer the question: is now any person killed by an officer justified if they got a legal gun on them? There is no gun shot before the ice office opens fire in any of the 5 different angles of footage we got. And not only that you change the story midway, first it was heard a gun shit now it's being shot at. And the guy shooting clearly saw the gun as it was right next to him. The mental gymnastics you display is worthy of Olympic gold I'll give you that.