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Linux is superlatively awesome and I say that as a FreeBSD user.

by Gud 9mo ago

wolvoleo 9mo ago
FreeBSD user here too <3 Mainly because I think Linux is way too aligned (and developed by) big tech these days. We have Netflix and Sun influence but the former is not really putting its stamp on it and the latter no longer exists (and evil Oracle has zero interest of course) I prefer the OS aligned with users like me not the big cloud boys.
- MarsIronPI 9mo ago
  I would love to try FreeBSD but I'm too addicted to NixOS... If there was a way to have a NixOS-like declarative BSD system I'd give it a serious try.
  - wolvoleo 9mo ago
    FreeBSD is kinda declarative. A lot of it is (or can be) configured in a text file called rc.conf https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf It's not as completely declarative as Nix but it was never intended to be.
    - vermaden 9mo ago
      More like 3 files. - /boot/loader.conf for kernel settings to be set only at boot - /etc/sysctl.conf for kernel settings to be set anytime - /etc/rc.conf for rest of configuration
      - MarsIronPI 9mo ago
        What about declarative listing of installed packages? One of the neat things about NixOS is that I know exactly what packages I've manually installed since they're specified in my config file. The other big difference I notice between NixOS and e.g. Debian is that on NixOS I only have to specify the changes from the defaults. On e.g. Debian I usually have to change config files that already exist. Then when the package updates its default config I end up having to review all the changes to the config, even when they have nothing to do with what I've explicitly configured.
        Gud 9mo ago
        You should really give it a try. https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf
  - Gud 9mo ago
    I don’t know how it compares to NixOS, but it is trivial to configure your own installer.
glenstein 9mo ago
And I say it as a Linux user. My story is breathing life into old hardware back in the 2010s without having to spend any money, and just enjoying the No Man's Sky style freedom of exploring a whole new world of how a desktop operating system could look in feel and work, unmoored from the background sickness of thinking everything I do is channeled into Microsoft telemetry. If you're the type of person who's capable of falling in love with software and software ecosystems, there's nothing like a first jump into Linux and understanding it as a world ready and waiting for you.

Linux is superlatively awesome and I say that as a FreeBSD user.

by Gud 9mo ago

Linux is superlatively awesome and I say that as a FreeBSD user.

FreeBSD user here too <3 Mainly because I think Linux is way too aligned (and developed by) big tech these days. We have Netflix and Sun influence but the former is not really putting its stamp on it and the latter no longer exists (and evil Oracle has zero interest of course) I prefer the OS aligned with users like me not the big cloud boys.

MarsIronPI 9mo ago
I would love to try FreeBSD but I'm too addicted to NixOS... If there was a way to have a NixOS-like declarative BSD system I'd give it a serious try.
- wolvoleo 9mo ago
  FreeBSD is kinda declarative. A lot of it is (or can be) configured in a text file called rc.conf https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf It's not as completely declarative as Nix but it was never intended to be.
  - vermaden 9mo ago
    More like 3 files. - /boot/loader.conf for kernel settings to be set only at boot - /etc/sysctl.conf for kernel settings to be set anytime - /etc/rc.conf for rest of configuration
    - MarsIronPI 9mo ago
      What about declarative listing of installed packages? One of the neat things about NixOS is that I know exactly what packages I've manually installed since they're specified in my config file. The other big difference I notice between NixOS and e.g. Debian is that on NixOS I only have to specify the changes from the defaults. On e.g. Debian I usually have to change config files that already exist. Then when the package updates its default config I end up having to review all the changes to the config, even when they have nothing to do with what I've explicitly configured.
      - Gud 9mo ago
        You should really give it a try. https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?rc.conf
- Gud 9mo ago
  I don’t know how it compares to NixOS, but it is trivial to configure your own installer.

glenstein 9mo ago

And I say it as a Linux user. My story is breathing life into old hardware back in the 2010s without having to spend any money, and just enjoying the No Man's Sky style freedom of exploring a whole new world of how a desktop operating system could look in feel and work, unmoored from the background sickness of thinking everything I do is channeled into Microsoft telemetry. If you're the type of person who's capable of falling in love with software and software ecosystems, there's nothing like a first jump into Linux and understanding it as a world ready and waiting for you.