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Yes, retroactively manufactured cause for a warrant to find only the information you want. Also, don't forget that profit maximization means selling to the hig
by kurthr 9mo ago
Yes, retroactively manufactured cause for a warrant to find only the information you want.
Also, don't forget that profit maximization means selling to the highest bidder, which might not be US govt. Certainly, there is means, motive, and opportunity for individuals with access to sell this info to geopolitical adversaries, and it is BY FAR the easiest way for adversaries to acquire it.
It has happened before and it will happen again.
- carefulfungi 9mo agoThey've stopped obtaining warrants. ICE claims they can enter homes forcefully without a judge-signed warrant. Judges have released at least one victim seized this way.
- gortok 9mo agoCan you provide a news link to this? As I understand it, courts have historically followed the precedent that “you can’t suppress the body”, meaning even if the method of an arrest is illegal, you don’t have to let the person go if their arrest is otherwise valid.
- JohnFen 9mo agohttps://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-...
- gortok 9mo agoI wasn’t clear. I’m referring to a news link indicating that judges have released folks due to valid arrest warrants but invalid means of arresting folks.
- carefulfungi 9mo agoThey didn't have a valid warrant. Without a judge's review, they broke down his door and entered, armed, and abducted him.
- gortok 9mo agoI understand, but do you have a news link to where the judge released him?
- carefulfungi 9mo agohttps://www.minnpost.com/metro/2026/01/judge-orders-release-of-liberian-man-arrested-in-minneapolis-by-agents-with-a-battering-ram/ https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2026/01/judge-orders-release-...
- CleaveIt2Beaver 9mo agoIsn't that moving the goalposts? The comment you were asking under specifically said these arrests were made without obtaining a warrant.
- gortok 9mo agoICE uses administrative warrants; and while administrative warrants do not allow for seizures inside a home, see my comment about the legal argument of “you can’t suppress the body” for why there’s not a whole lot that can be done if they do decide to kick down your door. The latest Serious Trouble podcast goes into this at the 12 minute mark. https://www.serioustrouble.show/p/120-days https://www.serioustrouble.show/p/120-days In this case the story didn’t make it clear whether or not they even had an administrative warrant. I’d be interested to find out if they did.
- carefulfungi 9mo agoThis statement is true. If you are downvoting because it is incorrect, I'd appreciate an explicit correction. Other posters provided links in this thread. * https://www.wired.com/story/us-judge-rules-ice-raids-require-judicial-warrants-contradicting-secret-ice-memo/ https://www.wired.com/story/us-judge-rules-ice-raids-require... * https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2026/01/judge-orders-release-of-liberian-man-arrested-in-minneapolis-by-agents-with-a-battering-ram/ https://www.minnpost.com/metro/2026/01/judge-orders-release-... > A federal judge in Minnesota on Thursday ordered the release of a Liberian man four days after heavily armed immigration agents broke into his home using a battering ram and arrested him. > U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Bryan said in his ruling that the agents violated Garrison Gibson’s Fourth Amendment rights against unlawful search and seizure.
- capitol_ 9mo agoIt means selling to all bidders, since it's information and not a tangible asset.