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As a non-American, I'm just wondering, why won't you help these people get legal citizenship status since it's clear as day most people want them in? Why won't

As a non-American, I'm just wondering, why won't you help these people get legal citizenship status since it's clear as day most people want them in? Why won't you protest against current citizenship rules, since it's clear you want them to be changed? edit: I see it's just a simple "f** ice" and "you need to go" case. I'll show myself out

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
> since it's clear as day most people want them in? Not sure how you concluded this. Particularly for unskilled labour.
- self_awareness 9mo ago
  Well if ICE deports illegal immigrants, and you're anti-ICE, then you do want those illegal immigrants? Or how is this supposed to work?
  - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
    > if ICE deports illegal immigrants, and you're anti-ICE, then you do want immigrants? No. I’m anti-murder. This logic is like saying someone who objects to the Nazis is racist against Germans.
    - self_awareness 9mo ago
      So you want to deport, but someone else than ICE should do it? Also, to be fair, nazis were Germans. Not aliens from outer space. Those were german people who identified with NSDAP party. Edit: I understand (well, kind of...) why people downvote me, but I'm really lost when trying to understand why they downvote you. I don't think I'll ever understand what's going on.
      - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
        > you want to deport, but someone else than ICE should do it? I want it to be done without murder. Murder is bad. I don’t care if it’s done by ICE or the Pink Pony Friendly Airlift Service. They should do it per the law. They should not have to blow hundreds of thousands of dollars per deportation. And they should do it without murder, with murderers in their ranks being charged per the law. > to be fair, nazis were Germans …yes. That doesn’t make being anti-Nazi racist against Germans.
- gordonhart 9mo ago
  It’s an easy conclusion to come to if your only view of the US comes from moderated online spaces and the news media.
ardme 9mo ago
It’s not just a simple case it’s an extremely contentious issue the country is deeply divided on based on location and political leanings.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago

> since it's clear as day most people want them in? Not sure how you concluded this. Particularly for unskilled labour.

self_awareness 9mo ago
Well if ICE deports illegal immigrants, and you're anti-ICE, then you do want those illegal immigrants? Or how is this supposed to work?
- JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
  > if ICE deports illegal immigrants, and you're anti-ICE, then you do want immigrants? No. I’m anti-murder. This logic is like saying someone who objects to the Nazis is racist against Germans.
  - self_awareness 9mo ago
    So you want to deport, but someone else than ICE should do it? Also, to be fair, nazis were Germans. Not aliens from outer space. Those were german people who identified with NSDAP party. Edit: I understand (well, kind of...) why people downvote me, but I'm really lost when trying to understand why they downvote you. I don't think I'll ever understand what's going on.
    - JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
      > you want to deport, but someone else than ICE should do it? I want it to be done without murder. Murder is bad. I don’t care if it’s done by ICE or the Pink Pony Friendly Airlift Service. They should do it per the law. They should not have to blow hundreds of thousands of dollars per deportation. And they should do it without murder, with murderers in their ranks being charged per the law. > to be fair, nazis were Germans …yes. That doesn’t make being anti-Nazi racist against Germans.
gordonhart 9mo ago
It’s an easy conclusion to come to if your only view of the US comes from moderated online spaces and the news media.

ardme 9mo ago

It’s not just a simple case it’s an extremely contentious issue the country is deeply divided on based on location and political leanings.