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It is famously against the law to own a gun, and carry it with a permit in the United States.
by dannyfreeman 8mo ago
It is famously against the law to own a gun, and carry it with a permit in the United States.
- kreetx 8mo agoIt's famously peaceful if you carry a gun to a protest and it famously drives no officer around you even more to their edge.
- DangitBobby 8mo agoMy man loves that boot.
- kreetx 8mo agoIf only take sides and don't make any actual arguments, then unfortunately you won't convince anyone either.
- DangitBobby 8mo agoCops can kill at will isn't something that needs to be argued against.
- kreetx 8mo agoCops can kill if they have reason to believe that the other will kill. Look it up.
- DangitBobby 8mo ago"at will". They aren't going to give you a medal for how far you can bend over.
- kreetx 8mo agoYou should elaborate, because if this is the sentence you want, it's no different: Cops can kill at will if they have reason to believe that the other will kill.
- DangitBobby 8mo agoThey can kill when they have a reasonable basis for assuming they are facing an imminent threat to their lives or addressing a threat to public safety (but NOT to prevent criminal activity that isn't life threatening). That isn't the same thing as a license to kill, and they are accountable for charges like murder when they don't meet a "reasonable officer on the scene" standard. I don't consider that to be "at will" (likened to "at will employment") so much as "at their discretion."
- kreetx 8mo agoDude, watch this: https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_ https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_
- dannyfreeman 8mo agoIf these cowardly goons are afraid of American citizens exercising their second amendment rights they should find another job.
- kreetx 8mo agoAs should you refrain from making assesments on human psychology if you are not able to do so.
- spacechild1 8mo agoInteresting. When people who stormed the Capitol openly carried assault rifles, MAGA had no problem with it. They called them patriots and peaceful protesters.
- kreetx 8mo agoIt's not about people carrying a gun at all, it's that should you carry a gun to a protest and should you engage in resisting to law enforcement while doing that. Had this person been perfectly still, he'd be still alive. (And also, had he not had that gun, but still resisted, he'd likely would have also been alive.)
- spacechild1 8mo ago> Had this person been perfectly still, he'd be still alive. Again, I'd like to see you stay perfectly still after getting peppersprayed in the face without any reason. At no point was he threatening and attacking ICE agents. He was trying to help another woman who had just been assaulted by agents. They created the very situation that led to this tragedy.
- kreetx 8mo agoThere was a reason if you watched the video, it was the "help" of putting his hands on one of the officers. And bringing a gun into a situation like this. There was a lot of whistlers, but I think the woman being helped was one of them, so this was what started the chain of events.
- spacechild1 8mo agoWhat started the whole thing is that an ICE agent violently pushed the women from behind.
- kreetx 8mo agoYes, because the woman was following the agent around, whistling.
- anthonypasq 8mo agodidnt realize the punishment for that was death