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Neither do I. But with Windows slipping badly, Google could start encroaching on their core tech.

torben-friis 8mo ago
Linux seems to be gaining a lot of traction, both with the fall of windows and gaming being more than feasible. It makes sense for the tech savvy option to succeed, now that personal computing is disappearing. Average folks won’t use a windows/macbook, they’ll use phones and tablets. My only concern is ending in a macOS+asahi situation where supporting a single device requires mountains of effort.
- Loughla 8mo ago
  The fall of windows and Linux gaining traction. I've seen that written on here, Reddit, /., digg, hell even on usenet back in the day. . . .
  - LorenDB 8mo ago
    And yet it's undeniable that 2025 had some of the biggest Linux hype in recent times: - Windows 10 went EOL and triggered a wave of people moving to Linux to escape Windows 11 - DHH's adventures in Linux inspired a lot of people (including some popular coding streamers/YouTubers) to try Linux - Pewdiepie made multiple videos about switching to Linux and selfhosting - Bazzite reported serving 1 PB of downloads in one month - Zorin reported 1M downloads of ZorinOS 18 in one month and crossed the 2M threshold in under 3 months - I personally recall seeing a number of articles from various media outlets of writers trying Linux and being pretty impressed with how good it was - And don't forget Valve announced the Steam Machine and Steam Frame, which will both run Linux and have a ton of hype around them In fact, I think that we will look back in 5 or 10 years and point at 2025 as the turning point for Linux on the desktop.
  - torben-friis 8mo ago
    Yes, but have you seen you real life non tech friends move to Linux? I’m seeing it now, and this is new.
    - pjmlp 8mo ago
      Yes, and I also have seen they come back to Windows, when they got into issues sharing software or files with friends, or local goverment requirements, and didn't had a relative to do their IT support for free.
- pjmlp 8mo ago
  The cycling speech since Window XP Toy's R US L&F days, unfortunely. Less fragmentation, more focus, OEM support on devices selling on regular stores is needed, otherwise we won't get away from the yearly meme.
  - flohofwoe 8mo ago
    > otherwise we won't get away from the yearly meme What's different in the last decade is that Windows is on an undeniable quality downward spiral, it's simply not important anymore for Microsoft. E.g. desktop Linux doesn't even need to improve, it just needs to wait for Windows to become worse ;)
    - pjmlp 8mo ago
      Unless it becomes available for normies to buy laptops with it pre-installed at Saturn, Media Market, FNAC, Cool Blue, and co, it won't matter. They aren't going to buy them from Tuxedo.
      - flohofwoe 8mo ago
        "Normies" buy smartphones and maybe a tablet, neither of those has Windows preinstalled either.
        pjmlp 8mo ago
        Available at Saturn, Media Market, FNAC, Cool Blue show floor.
        flohofwoe 8mo ago
        ...and a market share of 0.02% ;) https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/tablet/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/tablet/worldwide (I guess those 'Windows tablets' are running under convertible laptops or something...)
fc417fc802 8mo ago
So just don't use windows? The only reason I use android to begin with is because the mobile centric distros I looked into didn't appear to be to the point I would want to daily drive them yet. If and when that changes I'll switch. The only real issue is sourcing good mobile hardware that isn't locked down. At least for the time being the pixel line satisfies that.

Linux seems to be gaining a lot of traction, both with the fall of windows and gaming being more than feasible. It makes sense for the tech savvy option to succeed, now that personal computing is disappearing. Average folks won’t use a windows/macbook, they’ll use phones and tablets. My only concern is ending in a macOS+asahi situation where supporting a single device requires mountains of effort.

Loughla 8mo ago
The fall of windows and Linux gaining traction. I've seen that written on here, Reddit, /., digg, hell even on usenet back in the day. . . .
- LorenDB 8mo ago
  And yet it's undeniable that 2025 had some of the biggest Linux hype in recent times: - Windows 10 went EOL and triggered a wave of people moving to Linux to escape Windows 11 - DHH's adventures in Linux inspired a lot of people (including some popular coding streamers/YouTubers) to try Linux - Pewdiepie made multiple videos about switching to Linux and selfhosting - Bazzite reported serving 1 PB of downloads in one month - Zorin reported 1M downloads of ZorinOS 18 in one month and crossed the 2M threshold in under 3 months - I personally recall seeing a number of articles from various media outlets of writers trying Linux and being pretty impressed with how good it was - And don't forget Valve announced the Steam Machine and Steam Frame, which will both run Linux and have a ton of hype around them In fact, I think that we will look back in 5 or 10 years and point at 2025 as the turning point for Linux on the desktop.
- torben-friis 8mo ago
  Yes, but have you seen you real life non tech friends move to Linux? I’m seeing it now, and this is new.
  - pjmlp 8mo ago
    Yes, and I also have seen they come back to Windows, when they got into issues sharing software or files with friends, or local goverment requirements, and didn't had a relative to do their IT support for free.
pjmlp 8mo ago
The cycling speech since Window XP Toy's R US L&F days, unfortunely. Less fragmentation, more focus, OEM support on devices selling on regular stores is needed, otherwise we won't get away from the yearly meme.
- flohofwoe 8mo ago
  > otherwise we won't get away from the yearly meme What's different in the last decade is that Windows is on an undeniable quality downward spiral, it's simply not important anymore for Microsoft. E.g. desktop Linux doesn't even need to improve, it just needs to wait for Windows to become worse ;)
  - pjmlp 8mo ago
    Unless it becomes available for normies to buy laptops with it pre-installed at Saturn, Media Market, FNAC, Cool Blue, and co, it won't matter. They aren't going to buy them from Tuxedo.
    - flohofwoe 8mo ago
      "Normies" buy smartphones and maybe a tablet, neither of those has Windows preinstalled either.
      - pjmlp 8mo ago
        Available at Saturn, Media Market, FNAC, Cool Blue show floor.
        flohofwoe 8mo ago
        ...and a market share of 0.02% ;) https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/tablet/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/tablet/worldwide (I guess those 'Windows tablets' are running under convertible laptops or something...)

fc417fc802 8mo ago

So just don't use windows? The only reason I use android to begin with is because the mobile centric distros I looked into didn't appear to be to the point I would want to daily drive them yet. If and when that changes I'll switch. The only real issue is sourcing good mobile hardware that isn't locked down. At least for the time being the pixel line satisfies that.