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It's also possible to make such a thing as a shepard rhythm, using much the same principles. It's a lot harder though. Here's an excellent example: http://stret

It's also possible to make such a thing as a shepard rhythm, using much the same principles. It's a lot harder though. Here's an excellent example: http://stretta.bandcamp.com/track/as-clean-as-fire http://stretta.bandcamp.com/track/as-clean-as-fire I highly reccommend listening to and purchasing the whole album if you like bach style soothing-yet-maths-based music.

cpa 14y ago
That's pretty cool! Is there an analysis of this song (or album) somewhere?
- JonnieCache 14y ago
  There's this blurb he wrote on the soundcloud page: "When I see a photo of a modular synthesizer, I wonder, as I think many others do, what the thing sounds like. What possibilities lurk within this strange hardware? I want to hear something orchestrated and controlled. I want to hear someone commanding the instrument with authority, not merely floating on waves of serendipity. I want to hear something composed for the instrument, leveraging its strengths, not a orchestration of an existing composition. 'A Funneled Stone' is a pure modular synth release, tracked the old-shool, 1970's way: one monophonic line at a time. Every sound you hear was created, patched and recorded for that moment in time. When a new sound is needed, the patch is torn down and a new one is built. Polyphony is achieved by tracking each voice individually. A modular album is, by definition, unapologetically synthetic. I also tried to take a more minimalist approach to orchestration, so the individual sounds can be more fully isolated and appreciated. I spent much of the final month of production taking elements out, and editing for length. Sometimes this results in the remaining elements merely hinting at the underlying harmonic movement. As you can imagine, this process is very time-consuming, but fun. I hope you enjoy the results as much as I enjoyed creating it." For more super-hi-tech-math-music have a listen to this: http://detroitunderground.net/blog/2012/05/03/vaetxh-libet-tones-du17/ http://detroitunderground.net/blog/2012/05/03/vaetxh-libet-t... That page has technical descriptions of what's happening in each track. Risset illusions are just the start of the psychoacoustic trickery which goes on in that record. A word of warning however: unlike the stretta stuff, the Vaetxh tracks are REALLY NOT SOOTHING. If you are soothed by them, seek help.
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andybak 14y ago
Some interesting ideas in there but, dear god, have they picked some awful synth patches. And too many of them... I'd like to hear this played with just a single high-quality piano sound for all the instruments.
tomn 14y ago
Autechre did something similar, but getting slower rather than faster, and less subtle: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/06+Fold+4+Wrap+5/47EDV6 http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/06+Fold+4+Wrap+5/47EDV6
makmanalp 14y ago
For the record, stretta is a badass: http://www.youtube.com/user/stretta http://www.youtube.com/user/stretta Mostly associated with the monome.
andandand 14y ago
Another good example is nsi. - risset. preview: http://www.discogs.com/nsi-Squelch/release/1393612 http://www.discogs.com/nsi-Squelch/release/1393612
Evbn 14y ago
In GEB, Hofstadter argues that Bach's music is highly maths based.
- eru 14y ago
  Yes, that's what JohnnieCache said.

cpa 14y ago

That's pretty cool! Is there an analysis of this song (or album) somewhere?

JonnieCache 14y ago
There's this blurb he wrote on the soundcloud page: "When I see a photo of a modular synthesizer, I wonder, as I think many others do, what the thing sounds like. What possibilities lurk within this strange hardware? I want to hear something orchestrated and controlled. I want to hear someone commanding the instrument with authority, not merely floating on waves of serendipity. I want to hear something composed for the instrument, leveraging its strengths, not a orchestration of an existing composition. 'A Funneled Stone' is a pure modular synth release, tracked the old-shool, 1970's way: one monophonic line at a time. Every sound you hear was created, patched and recorded for that moment in time. When a new sound is needed, the patch is torn down and a new one is built. Polyphony is achieved by tracking each voice individually. A modular album is, by definition, unapologetically synthetic. I also tried to take a more minimalist approach to orchestration, so the individual sounds can be more fully isolated and appreciated. I spent much of the final month of production taking elements out, and editing for length. Sometimes this results in the remaining elements merely hinting at the underlying harmonic movement. As you can imagine, this process is very time-consuming, but fun. I hope you enjoy the results as much as I enjoyed creating it." For more super-hi-tech-math-music have a listen to this: http://detroitunderground.net/blog/2012/05/03/vaetxh-libet-tones-du17/ http://detroitunderground.net/blog/2012/05/03/vaetxh-libet-t... That page has technical descriptions of what's happening in each track. Risset illusions are just the start of the psychoacoustic trickery which goes on in that record. A word of warning however: unlike the stretta stuff, the Vaetxh tracks are REALLY NOT SOOTHING. If you are soothed by them, seek help.
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andybak 14y ago

Some interesting ideas in there but, dear god, have they picked some awful synth patches. And too many of them... I'd like to hear this played with just a single high-quality piano sound for all the instruments.

tomn 14y ago

Autechre did something similar, but getting slower rather than faster, and less subtle: http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/06+Fold+4+Wrap+5/47EDV6 http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/06+Fold+4+Wrap+5/47EDV6

makmanalp 14y ago

For the record, stretta is a badass: http://www.youtube.com/user/stretta http://www.youtube.com/user/stretta Mostly associated with the monome.

andandand 14y ago

Another good example is nsi. - risset. preview: http://www.discogs.com/nsi-Squelch/release/1393612 http://www.discogs.com/nsi-Squelch/release/1393612

Evbn 14y ago

In GEB, Hofstadter argues that Bach's music is highly maths based.

eru 14y ago
Yes, that's what JohnnieCache said.