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As I understand it, white-collar work at all levels is eliminated, as are creative pursuits (art, music, etc), and we can finally return to humanity's true call

by Nition 9mo ago

As I understand it, white-collar work at all levels is eliminated, as are creative pursuits (art, music, etc), and we can finally return to humanity's true calling - manual labour.

Der_Einzige 9mo ago
This but unironically. I'm hoping I can get into the skilled blue collar labor before it gets flooded by the hordes of unemployed AI researchers circa the 2030s (likely 2028 lol). No I'm not even kidding
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- Tade0 9mo ago
  I wouldn't sweat about it. In my ~40mln country the construction sector (that includes renovation, landscaping etc.) outnumbers the IT sector 3:1. Lead times for having things done around here are ridiculous, which is why I believe the former can absorb half of the latter with little change in salaries.
  - Der_Einzige 9mo ago
    Yeah skilled blue collar labor is insanely stupidly expensive. I do want a flood of them so that the current scammers in most of the skilled blue collars get devalued. No, you do not get to charge 500 USD to change an anode rod on a water heater if I have the damn rod. That's a 20 min job MAX and the only reason I'm calling you is that putting on the stupid plumbing tape at the end is annoying for me I understand guild warfare and the hatred of labor unions the moment that I have to deal yet another actually-should-be-in-jail levels of scamming from yet another dentist. Y'all think that AI researchers should go to jail for hallucinated citations? Dental surgeons should go to jail for selling homeopathic remedies (ask me how I know!)
    - anal_reactor 9mo ago
      I'm wondering if I get fired from my corporate middle-do-nothing job I could become a skilled blue collar worker. My point is, someone who both at the same time can put tiles and won't fuck up the pattern could be very valuable. I assume one year maximum to learn ins and outs.
      - jansper39 9mo ago
        Why would you assume you can become a skilled blue collar worker in a year?
    - Tade0 9mo ago
      > I do want a flood of them so that the current scammers in most of the skilled blue collars get devalued. Same here. A friend of mine had some interior finishing done by two guys - one was a drinker, the other - a smoker (not tobacco). After several missed deadlines and significant cost overruns, the drinker had to go, because he would go AWOL too often. The smoker stayed, because he responded to yelling and threats of lawsuits. > Y'all think that AI researchers should go to jail for hallucinated citations? I don't want to start this conversation because to me if we were a proper branch of engineering, a lot of us would be in jail already. > Dental surgeons should go to jail for selling homeopathic remedies I respect the hustle, but he could have just went with vitamin C supplements like my guy. He's a doctor(like all denstist here) and those pills legitimately contain proper amounts of vitamin C. Only difference is that I can get the same thing for 1/4 of the price at any pharmacy.
- _glass 9mo ago
  Wait for the robots taking manual labor. Maybe there is some value in nursing them?
- lbreakjai 9mo ago
  Who will need your labour if everyone else is unemployed?
  - direwolf20 9mo ago
    Landlords, probably. The only people you have to keep paying even if they don't do anything and nobody is employed.
    - fcantournet 9mo ago
      landlords need people to pay the rent. Or to spell it out more precisely : the construction/housing industry off of which land lords extract value needs external value creation to still exist AND give revenue to spend to a large population. "Houses are for people to live in" may be a communist slogan right now, but it's also very basic macro-economic reality.
      - direwolf20 9mo ago
        When someone is living in the house, the landlord can get the rent. Either voluntarily, or by force through the courts. Even if nobody is employed.
        lbreakjai 9mo ago
        If nobody is employed, then nobody has any money to live in a house, and the landlord doesn't get any rent.
        direwolf20 9mo ago
        The landlord then has the right to make someone homeless, for no benefit to anybody, just out of spite that he isn't getting rent.
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- jetsetk 9mo ago
  enjoy learning the job for 3 years before gettin replaced by the cheap floods

by Nition 9mo ago

As I understand it, white-collar work at all levels is eliminated, as are creative pursuits (art, music, etc), and we can finally return to humanity's true calling - manual labour.

Der_Einzige 9mo ago

This but unironically. I'm hoping I can get into the skilled blue collar labor before it gets flooded by the hordes of unemployed AI researchers circa the 2030s (likely 2028 lol). No I'm not even kidding

deleted 9mo ago
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Tade0 9mo ago
I wouldn't sweat about it. In my ~40mln country the construction sector (that includes renovation, landscaping etc.) outnumbers the IT sector 3:1. Lead times for having things done around here are ridiculous, which is why I believe the former can absorb half of the latter with little change in salaries.
- Der_Einzige 9mo ago
  Yeah skilled blue collar labor is insanely stupidly expensive. I do want a flood of them so that the current scammers in most of the skilled blue collars get devalued. No, you do not get to charge 500 USD to change an anode rod on a water heater if I have the damn rod. That's a 20 min job MAX and the only reason I'm calling you is that putting on the stupid plumbing tape at the end is annoying for me I understand guild warfare and the hatred of labor unions the moment that I have to deal yet another actually-should-be-in-jail levels of scamming from yet another dentist. Y'all think that AI researchers should go to jail for hallucinated citations? Dental surgeons should go to jail for selling homeopathic remedies (ask me how I know!)
  - anal_reactor 9mo ago
    I'm wondering if I get fired from my corporate middle-do-nothing job I could become a skilled blue collar worker. My point is, someone who both at the same time can put tiles and won't fuck up the pattern could be very valuable. I assume one year maximum to learn ins and outs.
    - jansper39 9mo ago
      Why would you assume you can become a skilled blue collar worker in a year?
  - Tade0 9mo ago
    > I do want a flood of them so that the current scammers in most of the skilled blue collars get devalued. Same here. A friend of mine had some interior finishing done by two guys - one was a drinker, the other - a smoker (not tobacco). After several missed deadlines and significant cost overruns, the drinker had to go, because he would go AWOL too often. The smoker stayed, because he responded to yelling and threats of lawsuits. > Y'all think that AI researchers should go to jail for hallucinated citations? I don't want to start this conversation because to me if we were a proper branch of engineering, a lot of us would be in jail already. > Dental surgeons should go to jail for selling homeopathic remedies I respect the hustle, but he could have just went with vitamin C supplements like my guy. He's a doctor(like all denstist here) and those pills legitimately contain proper amounts of vitamin C. Only difference is that I can get the same thing for 1/4 of the price at any pharmacy.
_glass 9mo ago
Wait for the robots taking manual labor. Maybe there is some value in nursing them?
lbreakjai 9mo ago
Who will need your labour if everyone else is unemployed?
- direwolf20 9mo ago
  Landlords, probably. The only people you have to keep paying even if they don't do anything and nobody is employed.
  - fcantournet 9mo ago
    landlords need people to pay the rent. Or to spell it out more precisely : the construction/housing industry off of which land lords extract value needs external value creation to still exist AND give revenue to spend to a large population. "Houses are for people to live in" may be a communist slogan right now, but it's also very basic macro-economic reality.
    - direwolf20 9mo ago
      When someone is living in the house, the landlord can get the rent. Either voluntarily, or by force through the courts. Even if nobody is employed.
      - lbreakjai 9mo ago
        If nobody is employed, then nobody has any money to live in a house, and the landlord doesn't get any rent.
        direwolf20 9mo ago
        The landlord then has the right to make someone homeless, for no benefit to anybody, just out of spite that he isn't getting rent.
        deleted 9mo ago
        [deleted]
jetsetk 9mo ago
enjoy learning the job for 3 years before gettin replaced by the cheap floods