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I think the level of corruption and blatant disregard for laws by the privileged we're seeing is unlike anything in modern history. If Nixon's watergate happene

by N_Lens 9mo ago

I think the level of corruption and blatant disregard for laws by the privileged we're seeing is unlike anything in modern history. If Nixon's watergate happened today it wouldn't even be a blip in the 24hrs news cycle, that's how far gone the erosion of institutions and rule of law is.

chneu 9mo ago
It's pretty wild how "normalized" it got within my generation. What's more wild is how much of the US believes that the other party would be much worse. To be clear, Republicans are absolutely the current cause of this insanity that's going on. The two party system doesn't help, but Republicans have committed insanity while claiming everyone else is doing worse. Trump is a literal pedophile who openly admitted to hating immigrants his entire life. We all saw this coming.
- NicoJuicy 9mo ago
  That's how Russian propaganda works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
- renewiltord 9mo ago
  It didn’t. You started paying attention. That’s all that changed. Hillary Clinton was pulling exceptional performance on cattle futures and Paul Pelosi had a strange knack for picking stock that reacted well to laws his wife pushed for. It is brazen today because they’re just launching $MELANIA and shit like that and selling pardons but that’s only because that’s user-visible. If someone siphoned your taxes or performed insider trading you wouldn’t even know. But corruption has been part and parcel of US politics. Or are we supposed to believe that things like the Chappaquiddick incident were actually innocent accidents? When I was younger I remember thinking that George Bush pardoning Scooter Libby was outrageous. Then I found out what these people were up to routinely.
  - tbossanova 9mo ago
    Aaand people wonder why we don’t trust politicians. I know a couple of good people who have tried to get into politics, just on a local scale. They said it was the worst thing they ever did
  - tim333 9mo ago
    I had a look at the Wikipedia on Chappaquiddick and it doesn't mention anything corruption? Seems to have been drunk driving? Not sure how it relates?
    - linksnapzz 9mo ago
      It relates, insofar as the driver was not charged, and in fact managed to run for president (and almost won the Democratic nomination) several years later, which a charge of manslaughter generally precludes.
drdaeman 9mo ago
> it wouldn't even be a blip in the 24hrs news cycle It would be, but both mass media and people attention spans have changed, so it would be very different in a lot of ways.
- alfiedotwtf 9mo ago
  Taken further, the reason you wouldn’t see it on the news is because the media is controlled by the people in government and friends… Don’t believe me? Google how TikTok got sold off to Trump’s base and now the word “Epstein” has been banned in DMs
tim333 9mo ago
>unlike anything in modern history The stuff currently happening in the US is unusual for the US but mild compared to Putin's Russia which Trump seems a little inspired by. At least you don't have people falling out of windows yet.
- tartuffe78 9mo ago
  How tall is that ballroom going to be?
  - linksnapzz 9mo ago
    ...should be at least as tall as the Salon de Fetes in the Elysee; that'd be appropriate.

by N_Lens 9mo ago

chneu 9mo ago

It's pretty wild how "normalized" it got within my generation. What's more wild is how much of the US believes that the other party would be much worse. To be clear, Republicans are absolutely the current cause of this insanity that's going on. The two party system doesn't help, but Republicans have committed insanity while claiming everyone else is doing worse. Trump is a literal pedophile who openly admitted to hating immigrants his entire life. We all saw this coming.

NicoJuicy 9mo ago
That's how Russian propaganda works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
renewiltord 9mo ago
It didn’t. You started paying attention. That’s all that changed. Hillary Clinton was pulling exceptional performance on cattle futures and Paul Pelosi had a strange knack for picking stock that reacted well to laws his wife pushed for. It is brazen today because they’re just launching $MELANIA and shit like that and selling pardons but that’s only because that’s user-visible. If someone siphoned your taxes or performed insider trading you wouldn’t even know. But corruption has been part and parcel of US politics. Or are we supposed to believe that things like the Chappaquiddick incident were actually innocent accidents? When I was younger I remember thinking that George Bush pardoning Scooter Libby was outrageous. Then I found out what these people were up to routinely.
- tbossanova 9mo ago
  Aaand people wonder why we don’t trust politicians. I know a couple of good people who have tried to get into politics, just on a local scale. They said it was the worst thing they ever did
- tim333 9mo ago
  I had a look at the Wikipedia on Chappaquiddick and it doesn't mention anything corruption? Seems to have been drunk driving? Not sure how it relates?
  - linksnapzz 9mo ago
    It relates, insofar as the driver was not charged, and in fact managed to run for president (and almost won the Democratic nomination) several years later, which a charge of manslaughter generally precludes.

drdaeman 9mo ago

> it wouldn't even be a blip in the 24hrs news cycle It would be, but both mass media and people attention spans have changed, so it would be very different in a lot of ways.

alfiedotwtf 9mo ago
Taken further, the reason you wouldn’t see it on the news is because the media is controlled by the people in government and friends… Don’t believe me? Google how TikTok got sold off to Trump’s base and now the word “Epstein” has been banned in DMs

tim333 9mo ago

>unlike anything in modern history The stuff currently happening in the US is unusual for the US but mild compared to Putin's Russia which Trump seems a little inspired by. At least you don't have people falling out of windows yet.

tartuffe78 9mo ago
How tall is that ballroom going to be?
- linksnapzz 9mo ago
  ...should be at least as tall as the Salon de Fetes in the Elysee; that'd be appropriate.