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Only if it would stop posts like this. We're not in charge of HN, we can't set up a billing system; we can't make Paul's decisions for him and he asks for inpu
by wheels 18y ago
Only if it would stop posts like this.
We're not in charge of HN, we can't set up a billing system; we can't make Paul's decisions for him and he asks for input when he wants it. As such, these musings are just killing time and taking up space on the front page where actual hacker news could be.
- ojbyrne 18y agoMeta-discussions were really the death of digg. Soon after come the "experiments."
- icey 18y agoUnfortunately, the "experiments" have already arrived: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=465991 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=465991
- cake 18y agoExactly my opinion, so far so good, the posts are still of great interest for me. What bothers me more is the increasing number of meta-talk.
- joshwa 18y agoAgain MetaFilter provides some guidance-- a separate silo for site meta-discussions (MetaTalk).
- calambrac 18y agoSorry, but I disagree. The death of digg is squarely at the hands of the trolls, spammers, and morons that flocked to the site like locusts.
- ojbyrne 18y agoOk, I stand corrected. The meta-discussions were the _start_ of the death of digg.
- RiderOfGiraffes 18y agoNo, you're confusing cause and effect. The arrival of the spammers and trolls led to the discussion of the long(er) timers over how to prevent it. The meta-discussion was the symptom, not the cause.
- ojbyrne 18y agoI don't think I am. There were meta-discussions very early on.
- calambrac 18y agoKevin Rose was famous and pitched the site hard. The community started going downhill very early on.
- ojbyrne 18y agoExcept that he didn't pitch the site hard at all for the first nine months (in fact he repeatedly denied being involved with it). And he wasn't all that famous (host of a dying show on a dying network). It was only after the VC money arrived that that started.
- calambrac 18y agoI'm obviously not going to argue with you over the history of digg, of course you're intimately familiar with that, but I felt like I got there pretty early, and I only personally got a couple of month's worth out of it before I felt it was overrun. And I didn't mean to imply that he was actually famous, but he was certainly well-enough known among the target audience that having his name attached made a significant difference.
- ojbyrne 18y agoActually I'd love to argue with you - my memory is not perfect, and I'd love to hear other people's perceptions. What point in time were those couple of months?
- mechanical_fish 18y agoI know where you're coming from, and I kind of agree. But the tendency to deconstruct every element of one's environment and debate how it might be improved is one of the very hacker tendencies that the site is intended to encourage. We're not going to get rid of it. Just ignore it if you can. I try to ignore it, but obviously my success rate is not 100%. ;) This thread isn't uninformative. Among other things, it is evolving into a catalogue of other sites that have tried this idea, and how it might have worked out for them (or not).