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Telling the police to come back with a warrant sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. And these guys aren't the police.
by pavel_lishin 9mo ago
Telling the police to come back with a warrant sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't.
And these guys aren't the police.
- motbus3 9mo agoWhy did he go there without a warranty in the first place? Was he following someone who entered the building? Would that be weird similar to the weird mustached guy from the 40s?
- Refreeze5224 9mo agoICE has been going around without judicial, as opposed to administrative, warrants, relying on threats and coercion to be let in and to arrest people. That's what this probably is.
- moralestapia 9mo agoThe story doesn't make sense, tbh ... One single guy. What was he supposed to do after they let him in? Just start asking people about their legal status? I doubt Google has many illegal immigrants working there ... I doubt there's even one. Then this guy finds them, allegedly, does he just arrests them and take them out the building? All by himself? With all the cameras and phones on the planet recording it? Inside Google, from all places? It just doesn't make sense. From the article: >Google’s top brass—including CEO Sundar Pichai and DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis—have remained silent on Pretti’s killing even inside the company, sources say. Why would they, though?
- xp84 9mo agoI agree, I don't need to hear my CEO's opinions on whatever controversy is big today. Run the company, focus on that.
- pavel_lishin 9mo agoI'd like to hear my CEO say that he won't allow goons into the building to drag me away to a concentration camp.
- moralestapia 9mo agoThere's not much a CEO can do about that ... (nor it should).
- watwut 9mo agoCEO are among the few people who can actually do something about that.
- moralestapia 9mo agoI don't follow. Do you have a concrete example?
- moralestapia 9mo ago>No. A classic.
- tamarinddreams 9mo agoCEOs restructure. Haliburton for example seems to have head quarters psychizophrenia. Google headquartered in the US is weak. Google headquartered in Ireland can play the negotiation farce and will either win in the end or will be able to write off the US in a better position. Similarly they can move anyone who is uncomfortable to other GEOs individually. Kind of a weak move that may be enough if the current administration falls apart.
- moralestapia 9mo agoNone of this makes sense to me.
- pavel_lishin 9mo agoBut consider: they're all really fucking stupid.
- tamarinddreams 9mo agoI think you are maybe approaching this from some rational place with some kind of assumption of good will. ICE on the other hand invaded Hyundai and arrested a bunch of people on various visas without knowing what was law enforcement and what was kidnapping. Big mistake maybe, for who? Met their quota. Only one guy? Can call others as soon as they have found a suspicion and then it is not reasonable to deny other enforcement. It is potentially as illegal as blocking backup to an active crime scene.
- motbus3 9mo agoI am not saying it is related, but the SS police was famous for solving their personal problems while using the uniform too. They also escorted politicians and stuff on events although it was completely unrelated to their role. Later on, the SS became what they became.
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- amanaplanacanal 9mo agoThe thing is, they are required to have a warrant, but I don't believe they are required to show you the warrant. In which case what exactly should they do?
- throw_away_8080 9mo agoNot a lawyer, but I think this is common knowledge: They are required to not only show it but provide a copy of the warrant on request. Furthermore the warrants are scoped, if the warrant specifies searching for firearms and the search your hard drive it can't be used in court unless you verbally allow it. Don't resist, but don't consent.