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Cruel and unusual punishment is about sentencing, after a trial. These folks didn't go through a trial. No, I don't think either person deserved fifteen years
by sejje 9mo ago
Cruel and unusual punishment is about sentencing, after a trial. These folks didn't go through a trial.
No, I don't think either person deserved fifteen years of hard labor, or five years.
What actually happened is not that they were executed on the spot, no.
- sowbug 9mo agoIt's not a particularly strong argument that these agents didn't violate the 8th amendment because they violated the 6th amendment right to trial.
- sejje 9mo agoYou mean "you're right, saying the victim was cruelly and unusually punished isn't a good argument here." You've just presented a new argument. Many, many people are killed by LEO each year; how many are considered 6th amendment violations? (None. LEO is not out there "administering judgement", they are responding to deadly-force encounters, guns, etc)
- lovich 9mo agoOh, just spontaneously died then? You know if you play the video backwards it shows ICE applying lifesaving bullet removal techniques on Mr. Pretti and Mrs. Good
- sejje 9mo agoIf I die in a car crash, you don't get to say the car executed me. Words mean things.
- lovich 9mo agoYou are correct, and in this case he was executed. Shot in the back and then mag dumped for good measure by government agents. If you want to argue that he wasn’t executed by those agents but was instead murdered, I’d suppose you might have a point.