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The events includes a conference title "Remote Attestation of Imutable Operating Systems built on systemd", which is a bit of a clue.

jsheard 8mo ago
I'm sure this company is more focused on the enterprise angle, but I wonder if the buildout of support for remote attestation could eventually resolve the Linux gaming vs. anti-cheat stalemate. At least for those willing to use a "blessed" kernel provided by Valve or whoever.
- direwolf20 8mo ago
  Only by creating a new stalemate between essential liberty and a little temporary security — anticheat doesn't protect you from DMA cheating.
  - jsheard 8mo ago
    I might be behind on the latest counter-counter-counter-measures, but I know some of the leading AC solutions are already using IOMMU to wedge a firewall between passive DMA sniffers and the game processes memory. e.g. https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/articles/19590307650588-Enabling-IOMMU-DMA-Protection https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/articles/19590307650588-...
    - direwolf20 8mo ago
      I think they use hardware IDs of devices with IOMMU-incompatible drivers.
    - PunchyHamster 8mo ago
      I love the gall > IOMMU is a powerful hardware security feature, which is used to protect your machine from malicious software The ring-0 anticheat IS that fucking malicious software
- devsda 8mo ago
  Road to hell is paved with good intentions. Somebody will use it and eventually force it if it exists and I don't think gaming especially those requiring anti-cheat is worth that risk. If that means linux will not be able to overtake window's market share, that's ok. At-least the year of the linux memes will still be funny.
  - digiown 8mo ago
    That'd be too bad. Sometimes, I feel like the general public doesn't deserve general purpose computing.
- rcxdude 8mo ago
  I sincerely hope not.
- tliltocatl 8mo ago
  I would rather have it unresolved forever.
- egorfine 8mo ago
  > resolve the Linux gaming vs. anti-cheat stalemate It will. Then just a bit later no movies for you unless you are running a blessed distro. Then Chrome will start reporting to websites that you are this weird guy with a dangerous unlocked distro, so no banking for you. Maybe no government services as well because obviously you are a hacker. Why would you run an unlocked linux if you were not?

jsheard 8mo ago

I'm sure this company is more focused on the enterprise angle, but I wonder if the buildout of support for remote attestation could eventually resolve the Linux gaming vs. anti-cheat stalemate. At least for those willing to use a "blessed" kernel provided by Valve or whoever.

direwolf20 8mo ago
Only by creating a new stalemate between essential liberty and a little temporary security — anticheat doesn't protect you from DMA cheating.
- jsheard 8mo ago
  I might be behind on the latest counter-counter-counter-measures, but I know some of the leading AC solutions are already using IOMMU to wedge a firewall between passive DMA sniffers and the game processes memory. e.g. https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/articles/19590307650588-Enabling-IOMMU-DMA-Protection https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/articles/19590307650588-...
  - direwolf20 8mo ago
    I think they use hardware IDs of devices with IOMMU-incompatible drivers.
  - PunchyHamster 8mo ago
    I love the gall > IOMMU is a powerful hardware security feature, which is used to protect your machine from malicious software The ring-0 anticheat IS that fucking malicious software
devsda 8mo ago
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. Somebody will use it and eventually force it if it exists and I don't think gaming especially those requiring anti-cheat is worth that risk. If that means linux will not be able to overtake window's market share, that's ok. At-least the year of the linux memes will still be funny.
- digiown 8mo ago
  That'd be too bad. Sometimes, I feel like the general public doesn't deserve general purpose computing.
rcxdude 8mo ago
I sincerely hope not.
tliltocatl 8mo ago
I would rather have it unresolved forever.
egorfine 8mo ago
> resolve the Linux gaming vs. anti-cheat stalemate It will. Then just a bit later no movies for you unless you are running a blessed distro. Then Chrome will start reporting to websites that you are this weird guy with a dangerous unlocked distro, so no banking for you. Maybe no government services as well because obviously you are a hacker. Why would you run an unlocked linux if you were not?