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China is not publicly espousing conquering Canada and Greenland (Europe). Who would you choose, the people threatening to invade you, or the other guys?!?!

lostlogin 9mo ago
China is threatening invade other places, which are of more value to them.
- TheOtherHobbes 9mo ago
  It would not surprise me in the least to discover that China is the true source of the current internal attack on the US, and Russia is a cut out. It would be efficient for China to have Russia undermine the US while Russia also weakens itself. China has made huge inroads in Africa, which gives it access to essential metals and other raw materials, and also puts it in a strong position diplomatically.
  - lostlogin 9mo ago
    If the root cause is external, it’s easier to stomach. But what if this is just America, attacking itself? That’s a lot harder.
  - somenameforme 9mo ago
    America's history is basically one long story of internal divisions, briefly overcome primarily during economic booms. The last economic boom, the computing/internet boom, was particularly long lived and helped create the longest window of internal stability we've had. That boom's coming to an end, and the era of stability it brought probably isn't that far behind. And this is before you even stop to consider things like social media which helps amp up and accelerate divisions by orders of magnitude.
- 1over137 9mo ago
  >China is threatening invade other places... Taiwan and where else?
  - lenerdenator 9mo ago
    Pretty much anything that happens to abut the South China Sea. I suppose you could also make the argument that they already did invade Tibet and Hong Kong, though that's splitting hairs.
    - RobotToaster 9mo ago
      Hong Kong was always Chinese, and was leased at gun point.
      - lenerdenator 9mo ago
        And now the agreement that they'd be given a more liberalistic government is being torn up at gun point.
      - lostlogin 9mo ago
        The government that leased it couldn’t really have less to do with the government that took it over in recent times. Things got considerably worse for Hong Kong, and the citizens didn’t want to join China. It’s certainly not a given that donating it to China was the right call.
        _carbyau_ 9mo ago
        > It’s certainly not a given that donating it to China was the right call. The right call for who? For the people there? Not good. For a contracting British empire facing a clearly growing-in-power China it was a graceful exit without military conflict.
        lostlogin 9mo ago
        Good point, maybe I have questions about the ‘graceful’ bit though.
thesmtsolver2 9mo ago
China claims parts of India, occupied some parts already in Ladakh, has conquered and subjugates Tibet, subjugates Xinjiang and has disputes with almost all other neighbors. As a person whose country is being threatened by China, I support the US. If China were as developed as the US, a lot of China’s threats would have been reality.

lostlogin 9mo ago

China is threatening invade other places, which are of more value to them.

TheOtherHobbes 9mo ago
It would not surprise me in the least to discover that China is the true source of the current internal attack on the US, and Russia is a cut out. It would be efficient for China to have Russia undermine the US while Russia also weakens itself. China has made huge inroads in Africa, which gives it access to essential metals and other raw materials, and also puts it in a strong position diplomatically.
- lostlogin 9mo ago
  If the root cause is external, it’s easier to stomach. But what if this is just America, attacking itself? That’s a lot harder.
- somenameforme 9mo ago
  America's history is basically one long story of internal divisions, briefly overcome primarily during economic booms. The last economic boom, the computing/internet boom, was particularly long lived and helped create the longest window of internal stability we've had. That boom's coming to an end, and the era of stability it brought probably isn't that far behind. And this is before you even stop to consider things like social media which helps amp up and accelerate divisions by orders of magnitude.
1over137 9mo ago
>China is threatening invade other places... Taiwan and where else?
- lenerdenator 9mo ago
  Pretty much anything that happens to abut the South China Sea. I suppose you could also make the argument that they already did invade Tibet and Hong Kong, though that's splitting hairs.
  - RobotToaster 9mo ago
    Hong Kong was always Chinese, and was leased at gun point.
    - lenerdenator 9mo ago
      And now the agreement that they'd be given a more liberalistic government is being torn up at gun point.
    - lostlogin 9mo ago
      The government that leased it couldn’t really have less to do with the government that took it over in recent times. Things got considerably worse for Hong Kong, and the citizens didn’t want to join China. It’s certainly not a given that donating it to China was the right call.
      - _carbyau_ 9mo ago
        > It’s certainly not a given that donating it to China was the right call. The right call for who? For the people there? Not good. For a contracting British empire facing a clearly growing-in-power China it was a graceful exit without military conflict.
        lostlogin 9mo ago
        Good point, maybe I have questions about the ‘graceful’ bit though.

thesmtsolver2 9mo ago

China claims parts of India, occupied some parts already in Ladakh, has conquered and subjugates Tibet, subjugates Xinjiang and has disputes with almost all other neighbors. As a person whose country is being threatened by China, I support the US. If China were as developed as the US, a lot of China’s threats would have been reality.