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I wonder where all the TikTok videos are about all the tanks and hotel shoot outs in Beijing over the last week or so are… where various party factions fought i
by mc32 9mo ago
I wonder where all the TikTok videos are about all the tanks and hotel shoot outs in Beijing over the last week or so are… where various party factions fought it out over control of the central committee and you have the disappearance of various generals in the PLA.
- pjc50 9mo agoCare to elaborate?
- deadbabe 9mo agoMost Americans are unaware of how China is collapsing. All news is censored.
- pjc50 9mo agoYou must have heard about it from somewhere? Some reliable third party intermediary that is neither US nor China?
- buildbot 9mo agoI haven’t heard anything about this but the claim appears to be mostly true - https://spectator.com/article/has-xi-jinping-fought-off-another-coup/?edition=us https://spectator.com/article/has-xi-jinping-fought-off-anot... The spectator is allegedly a reliable media source, I am not personally familiar.
- techterrier 9mo agoIt is not. It's a contrarian newspaper, gives some interesting folks a platform, but mostly cranks.
- buildbot 9mo agoIs https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-spectator-usa/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-spectator-usa/ Wrong here? (I really don’t know, but it does seem that this info at least is coming from multiple places?)
- techterrier 9mo agoIt would be considered way on the right generally. To the right of the Telegraph, the main right wing broadsheet. It's a funny old magazine though, they really do get all sorts in there and print stuff that others wouldn't. It's entirely editorial though with huge biases. I'm glad it exists and read it often, but I'd go checking everything I read in it if I was after some facts.
- buildbot 9mo agoThanks, good to know!
- pjc50 9mo agoThe Spectator is 99% opinion pieces. They're not somewhere I'd go for news. It all seems a bit unconfirmed sources. Zhang being purged is confirmed on the BBC and absolutely everywhere else, along with pointing out that there's been a "clean sweep" of senior PLA staff. The street violence seems a bit less corroborated. (by contrast, while the Daily Mail is absolutely terrible at opinion and domestic news, they seem to have some capacity left for doing overseas reporting that isn't just wire service, so if they report on overseas events you can be reasonably sure that something like that happened)
- kipchak 9mo agoGiven the details mentioned (9 guard deaths) the "unconfirmed reports" is probably referring to the x post[1] mentioned in the peoplenewstoday.com article. Personally word not somehow getting out of dozens of people being shot seems hard to believe, though not impossible. [1]https://x.com/ShengXue_ca/status/2015122407736963455 https://x.com/ShengXue_ca/status/2015122407736963455
- wat10000 9mo ago"According to unconfirmed reports...." The question isn't whether to trust The Spectator, it's whether to trust this unconfirmed, unnamed source.
- mc32 9mo agoTo be fair, I don’t think it’s as much collapsing as it’s having an internal party power struggle where the more authoritarian faction seems to have violently quelled a rebellion by one or two other factions.
- aprentic 9mo agoCan you share the supporting data? Gordon Chang has been making this prediction for almost a quarter century. Will it happen before or after the Mayan calendar predicts the end of the world??
- SHAKEDECADE 9mo agoI was able to find this pretty quickly: Zhang Youxia Arrested After Failed Coup; Gunfight Allegedly Occurred at Jingxi Hotel in Western Beijing (https://www.peoplenewstoday.com/news/en/2026/01/25/1130776.html.Zhang-Youxia-Arrested-After-Failed-Coup;-Gunfight-Allegedly-Occurred-at-Jingxi-Hotel-in-Western-Beijing.html https://www.peoplenewstoday.com/news/en/2026/01/25/1130776.h...)
- yieldcrv 9mo agoOh nice, what would the coup be about? Would it be for something closer to western interests or would it be about because theyre too far from marxism, like when the students at Tiananmen Square were trying to democratically vote in more marxism but the Americans only saw democratically
- pjc50 9mo agoReports talk about some combination of being too far from Xi and "corruption", which is the usual all-purpose charge in situations like this.
- _vqpz 9mo agoWhat do you mean "you wonder where they are"? Do you even use tiktok to be able to see them? Because if you search about that on there you can find videos