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> but not that fast Why not? All the tech was already put in place by China. All that the U.S. had to do was change the filtered words.
by inetknght 9mo ago
> but not that fast
Why not? All the tech was already put in place by China. All that the U.S. had to do was change the filtered words.
- mschuster91 9mo agoI had expected a longer "cooldown" time so that people don't immediately jump to the conclusion that the forced TikTok sale was to suppress discussion of the Epstein files.
- sosomoxie 9mo agoWhat words were China filtering? I've never seen reports of censorship like this on TikTok before Ellison bought it.
- netsharc 9mo agoOn WeChat lots of things are censored, almost keyword based. E.g. a building collapses, you want to talk about it to your friends, your message can't be sent because it'll be deemed to be trying to cause social unrest.. Duoyin (Chinese version of TikTok) would definitely not be different..
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- dns_snek 9mo agoEnough of them to give rise to the term "algospeak" which means using words like "unalive" in place of "kill" to avoid automated censorship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak Meanwhile you can report a bot who's posted 20+ comments under a video to advertise illegal drugs and all of the reports and subsequent appeals will consistently come back as "No violation found".
- sunaookami 9mo agoThis has been happening for 10+ years on e.g. YouTube, you can't say certain words in the video or mention them in the title or you get demonetized. Nothing to do with China.
- dns_snek 9mo ago>> All the tech was already put in place by China. All that the U.S. had to do was change the filtered words. > I've never seen reports of censorship like this on TikTok before Ellison bought it.
- inetknght 9mo ago> you can't say certain words in the video or mention them in the title or you get demonetized That's not censorship problems. That's advertisement problems. That's conflicts of interest problems. That's incentives problems. That's people-who-post-videos-just-to-make-money problems. Well, okay, it can easily be turned into censorship problems: instead of just demonetizing the video, don't show it to anyone. It's quite a fine line, but the line is indeed there.
- direwolf20 9mo agoThe Chinese one is to do with China, the American one is to do with America.
- estearum 9mo agoDoes "kill" have some type of salient political valence that I'm not aware of? This seems like a fairly blunt attempt at quality-of-life improvement for the general platform vibes, no? Put some friction on the (legitimate) nutjobs who just want to say "Kill X, kill Y" all the time and are so insane they can't figure out euphemisms?
- NickC25 9mo agoOn WeChat and Douyin (chinese tiktok), good luck mentioning things like: the cultural revolution famine the great leap forward Taiwanese independence Hong Kong self governance democracy human rights Falun Gong Uyghur people free speech KMT party Chiang Kai-shek and that's just off the top of my head. there are likely hundreds of others.
- sosomoxie 9mo agoBut did this apply to the US version of TikTok? We now have imposed censorship in the US app, that as far as I'm aware did not exist at all when it was owned by China.
- inetknght 9mo ago> did this this apply to the US version of TikTok? Yup. China doesn't want you to know about Chinese problems or history, like Tianenmen Square. > as far as I'm aware did not exist at all when it was owned by China. Then either you weren't paying attention or the filters were working against you as intended.
- sosomoxie 9mo agoYou say yes, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I’ve never seen any credible reporting suggesting China was censoring any topic on TikTok.
- direwolf20 9mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_TikTok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_TikTok
- netsharc 9mo agoBut this blatant move shows "We're no different to the Chinese ruling party now"... If it's a slow descent, people might accept the madness (imagine if a bombshell report showed Biden had links to Epstein, sexually assaulted 20+ women, and was moaning about the Nobel Peace Prize to the prime minister of Norway)... Somehow I'm optimistic that this means the Trump Regime is on its last legs. But well, what's the quote about underestimating the stupidity of the American public?
- inetknght 9mo ago> But this blatant move shows "We're no different to the Chinese ruling party now" Yup!
- deaux 9mo ago> But this blatant move shows "We're no different to the Chinese ruling party now" Huh? They clearly are different - they have all the drawbacks with none of the positives.
- direwolf20 9mo agoYeah, the CCP brought more people out of poverty than any other system including capitalism.