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I hope for the good of mankind, all sides of politics unite against deplatforming and oppressing opposing viewpoints. It's sad that certain topics (anti-ICE, E
by nomilk 9mo ago
I hope for the good of mankind, all sides of politics unite against deplatforming and oppressing opposing viewpoints.
It's sad that certain topics (anti-ICE, Epstein) neutered on a social media platform, but this went on for years when the politics were reversed.
Let everyone have their say, I say.
- felixgallo 9mo ago[flagged]
- NickC25 9mo ago[flagged]
- nomdep 9mo ago"it became clear that there was no conspiratorial algorithmic suppression". Yes, the Twitter files showed that the suppression was done mostly by humans.
- felixgallo 9mo agothe twitter files, what a laugh. Can you point to a particular part of the twitter files that was not obviously overblown, wrong, or subsequently thoroughly discredited that supports your claim of conspiratorial right wing suppression? Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files
- direwolf20 9mo ago[flagged]
- nomilk 9mo agoMore nuanced laws can prevent such behaviour without impacting free expression. For example, Public Nuisance laws. That way the content itself isn't legislated again, just the appropriateness of the time and place, and the society isn't prevented from having fictional works, history texts, art containing the banned topic.
- njhnjh 9mo ago[dead]
- debo_ 9mo agoThank you, Godwin.
- direwolf20 9mo agoGodwin's law is not a useful heuristic, and Godwin himself regrets it. Every universal principle should have its extreme cases tested. If you claim it should be fine to say anything at all, then you have to test that against the limits like HH, or North Korean propaganda, or death threats, etc.
- gadflyinyoureye 9mo agoYes. Now you don't know who to watch. Forcing conversations under ground just requires a larger intelligence network. Let them say things on Reddit and the like to simply keep track using simple tools.
- nomilk 9mo agoEven better than tracking them, reason with them (à la Daryl Davis [0]), even if only a few minds are changed, it's a big win for society. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis
- conception 9mo agoBut the thing is people aren’t having “their say”. Social media companies are amplifying voices and viewpoints. They are not acting as “common carriers” letting quality sift to the top. It is curated and crafted.
- tartoran 9mo agoNow they're thumbing down the scale for censorship.
- kortilla 9mo ago“Letting quality sift to the top” implies that there is a way for this to happen without curation. Pure user vote driven things like Reddit are a failure (echo chambers, emotional appeals, bot rings, etc). So I’m curious what you think would let that happen? Even HN is heavily moderated to maintain topics.
- conception 9mo agoModeration is not amplification.
- kortilla 9mo agoWhat do you call the moderators reposting stories they think would be good on the front page to “give them another chance”?
- conception 9mo agoNot moderation? That's curation.
- kortilla 9mo agoWtf is your point? That’s what the moderators do here
- infecto 9mo agoI am not sure why this was flagged but I don’t think it’s wrong. I am not sure if it’s a uniquely American thing but the internet has caused an unfortunate case of brigading for almost anything. I like to think I sit fairly middle in a lot of American topics I lean left on some items, taxes, healthcare, free school lunches and right on others but I remember how easy it was a number of years ago to be labeled a racist. You really cannot have an opinion about much these days without someone labeling you something unfavorably. It’s unfortunate.
- JKCalhoun 9mo ago"Labelling" is different than censorship though, no?
- infecto 9mo agoI think it’s all part of the same culture of brigading. My comment was more an extension of thought to the parents that America has gone down a hole where dialogue no longer exists.
- lyu07282 9mo ago[flagged]
- infecto 9mo agoI am going to vouch for this comment because this is a great example of what I was describing. People jump to whatever conclusion they want and you are either with them or without. It’s sad what has come to be in society.
- dmit 9mo agoPeople jump to the conclusion because a lot of the time they've had this exact argument already, and they know how it tends to end. Proclaiming oneself a centrist might seem like a noble, moderate position. But in 2026, with the Overton window basically being shifted outside the frame?
- lyu07282 9mo agoYeah except when it comes to what this was really about, in which case "all sides" happily go along with it. As it turns out censorship to protect our precious zionist ethnostate is something everybody agrees with.
- NickC25 9mo agoI don't know. I think that over the years, bad faith actors in the world of geopolitics have taken advantage of this in a very nefarious way in order to sow chaos, bad-faith/purposefully-inaccurate "talking points" and capture the hearts and minds of the ignorant, the stupid, and the willfully delusional masses who are desperate to cling to a conspiracy if it fits their worldview which is in turn reinforced by said bad actors. Is it a potentially unconstitutional slippery slope? yes, absolutely. Is it something we need to tackle as adults and citizens? yes, absolutely. Should the desires of SV tech bro billionaires have any input in those discussions? no, absolutely not.
- cindyllm 9mo ago[dead]
- rtp4me 9mo agoTo me, the media is/are nothing more than drug sellers at this point. They have their weapon "of truth" sold to the very people you listed above. I do my absolute best to not consume any media because I know it is twisted and often wrong (eg. AI generated content). The best I can do is simply not participate in their war. Reddit, TikTok, X, etc are definitely supplying heavy drugs to anyone who wants to be hooked. At some point, we definitely need a cooling-off period where people from both sides refrain from inciting anger from the masses.
- bakies 9mo agoYou can't have all side of politics unite when one side is doing that thing you want to unite against.