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So how does that explain I can take 10 100ml bottles and an empty 1l bottle through security but not 1 full 1l bottle?

WalterBright 9mo ago
The same reason used for WA emissions inspections (since suspended). If your tailpipe emitted 99ppm of pollutants, you were good to go. If it emitted 100ppm, you had to get it fixed. Good ole step functions.
- krisoft 9mo ago
  I don't get your point about the tailpipe emissions. Of course there is a hard cutoff. What else could there be? Do you want them to gently suggest that you should maybe fix your car above 90ppm, and then rudely suggest from 95ppm? The response they can do is that they either let you use the car or not let you use the car. That is binary. Technically they cannot even do that. All they can do is promise you that if you use your non-compliant car and they find it out they will fine you. Laws are after all just formalised threats backed by force.
  - WalterBright 9mo ago
    > What else could there be? Charge a fee based on the number of ppm's your car emits: tax * ppm = fee to renew your tags Even better would be to look at the odometer reading each year: tax * ppm * miles driven last year = fee to renew your tags
gizzlon 9mo ago
You can't, at least not where I live
opello 9mo ago
You have to be able to fit those 10 100mL bottles into a single 1 quart resealable bag. At most you'd probably get about 9.46 of those 10 bottles in the bag but in practice it's fewer still. 1 US liquid quart is about 946.353 milliliters.
- gambiting 9mo ago
  >>1 US liquid quart is about 946.353 milliliters. Why not just say 1 litre and have the same limit as the rest of the world.
  - opello 9mo ago
    The surface level answer is "for Ronald Reagan reasons": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_Conversion_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_Conversion_Act
  - mendelmaleh 9mo ago
    Because we have quart-sized ziplock bags here, liter bags not so much.
    - gambiting 9mo ago
      ...the rule wasn't implemented because you have quart sized bags, it's the other way around. Also it's not like 1 litre bags would be difficult to make and procure.

The same reason used for WA emissions inspections (since suspended). If your tailpipe emitted 99ppm of pollutants, you were good to go. If it emitted 100ppm, you had to get it fixed. Good ole step functions.

krisoft 9mo ago
I don't get your point about the tailpipe emissions. Of course there is a hard cutoff. What else could there be? Do you want them to gently suggest that you should maybe fix your car above 90ppm, and then rudely suggest from 95ppm? The response they can do is that they either let you use the car or not let you use the car. That is binary. Technically they cannot even do that. All they can do is promise you that if you use your non-compliant car and they find it out they will fine you. Laws are after all just formalised threats backed by force.
- WalterBright 9mo ago
  > What else could there be? Charge a fee based on the number of ppm's your car emits: tax * ppm = fee to renew your tags Even better would be to look at the odometer reading each year: tax * ppm * miles driven last year = fee to renew your tags

gizzlon 9mo ago

You can't, at least not where I live

opello 9mo ago

You have to be able to fit those 10 100mL bottles into a single 1 quart resealable bag. At most you'd probably get about 9.46 of those 10 bottles in the bag but in practice it's fewer still. 1 US liquid quart is about 946.353 milliliters.

gambiting 9mo ago
>>1 US liquid quart is about 946.353 milliliters. Why not just say 1 litre and have the same limit as the rest of the world.
- opello 9mo ago
  The surface level answer is "for Ronald Reagan reasons": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_Conversion_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_Conversion_Act
- mendelmaleh 9mo ago
  Because we have quart-sized ziplock bags here, liter bags not so much.
  - gambiting 9mo ago
    ...the rule wasn't implemented because you have quart sized bags, it's the other way around. Also it's not like 1 litre bags would be difficult to make and procure.