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There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT. They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just cr
by xiphias2 9mo ago
There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT. They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations.
As a European I'm happy to use their product (and pay for it), I just ask one tiny little thing from them: build a better model with lower latency.
- ddalex 9mo ago> build a better model with lower latency. That's mighty impossible for the european mindset - people here are not so risk-eager as to through hundreds of billions on infrastructure for something that might return a profit.
- tormeh 9mo agoThe US capital markets are truly a wonder to behold. There's no way to replace that. For good and ill, you'd only get weird looks in Europe if you asked for €10 billion for an unproven business model in what's somehow also a competitive market. To be fair this example does look a lot like insanity.
- stackghost 9mo ago>There's no way to replace that. Nothing is truly irreplaceable
- LunaSea 9mo agoIt's not really a wonder, Americans will simply lose their pensions if the AI business models don't work out. The same way it happened many times in the past.
- yobbo 9mo agoThis is part of the answer. I have a theory about the second part; European consumers have an even more suspicious view of "corporate overlords" if they are domestic/European than if they are American. Not because Americans are more trustworthy, but because they see Europeans as "anonymous masses" and are therefore more "neutral" to the internal struggles in Europe. Signing up to a service owned by a European "dynastic" family, possibly in a neighbouring country, feels like more of a surrender of autonomy.
- coredev_ 9mo agoHasn't this also something to do with the cultural dominance that US have had over the EU? We considered US services more valuable just because they where from US. But that cultural dominance might not be as strong anymore, maybe because of social media/TikTok?
- dmytrish 9mo agoYou don't have to love risk to build something you need.
- oulipo2 9mo ago1. ChatGPT is shit 2. We prefer anti-AI regulations and not having a stupid Musk indoctrinating half the country
- lm28469 9mo ago> There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT Before or after the bubble pops? What does chatgpt has over competitors again? Besides a deranged ceo of course
- Esophagus4 9mo agoUhhh... 800m active users?
- lm28469 9mo agoUhhh... barely 5% paying users? The day they ask 1 cent from free users they'll go to the countless alternatives
- Esophagus4 9mo agoLolol They’re not going to. You’re rooting so hard for a downfall that won’t happen. They’re going to be an advertising giant.
- tmtvl 9mo agoBrand recognition.
- dgxyz 9mo agoNo. No one really gives a shit about AI other than the tech industry and vocal CEO culture which is just using it to bury recession and regular lay offs. Otherwise it's novelty value and frustration but no one is going to use it or pay enough for it to be viable as an economic backbone. There are many more important things to consider. Like literally everything else society sits on top of.
- carlosjobim 9mo agoAI is great at translating, doing a task in seconds which would take days. For almost no cost. That is quite significant on a continent like Europe, with dozens of different languages.
- dgxyz 9mo agoI have a friend who's a professional translator. No it isn't. She's forever cleaning up after the mess it left people in. In fact business for her is really booming thanks to people who think that is the case. And I'm not talking about LLMs here but DeepL etc.
- carlosjobim 9mo agoAI translates correctly, with a few minor imperfections which don't impede communication. Compare that to waiting a day and paying hundreds of euros for each message. AI translation is comparable to the telephone or e-mail in how it improves communication.
- 5-0 9mo agoThe end-user costs are slim to none, but for OpenAI alone they're hundreds of billions USD. LLMs certainly have their use and are here to stay but it remains to be seen how they can be commercially successful without constant injections of venture capital. These days even the French (!) speak English.
- stackghost 9mo ago>There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT. They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations. I think the idea of a Eurostack is more compelling: standard office productivity tools that aren't beholden to Microsoft, Apple, or Google. That means email, calendar, spreadsheets, word processing, slide decks, video conferencing. Imagine if every government and corporation in the eurozone stopped paying for Windows licenses and O365 subscriptions. LibreOffice exists, of course, but it lacks an alternative to Outlook and Teams/Zoom. It would benefit from a benevolent corporate sponsor with deeper pockets than TDF which AFAIK is purely volunteer-driven.
- me_bx 9mo ago> They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations. What failed with Mistral? Which anti-AI regulations are we talking about, and don't these apply to any solution distributed in the European Union, hence also to American ones?