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Meanwhile at least two people who have openly murdered people are now effectively in witness protection without even investigation, forget trial Just firing a

by ck2 9mo ago

Meanwhile at least two people who have openly murdered people are now effectively in witness protection without even investigation, forget trial Just firing a gun on a street will open an investigation on any other cop in the country Now killing someone gets a pass? We are a banana republic now with the government executing protestors Eventually it will be a dozen protestors shot at once, they already know they will get a pass based on policy, why stop at just one?

decremental 9mo ago
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mothballed 9mo ago
Jon Ross got a $750,000 payout via gofundme. So there is also a very large bounty for the murderers to execute someone. The new American dream?
- goatlover 9mo ago
  Who funds a federal agent executing a citizen? Did they not watch the same videos we all did?
  - deleted 9mo ago
    [deleted]
  - owyn 9mo ago
    Yes they did, and that's the problem. Some people support this. It's easier to rile up hatred than to fix any real problems. When you spend years framing ALL immigration as illegal, you get a lot of people (like some of my family members) who will say "well, they ARE here illegally so they just need to enforce the law". And yes there are illegal immigrants in this country, but I don't think this kind of violence is the right solution.
  - lux-lux-lux 9mo ago
    Bill Ackman, among other people.
  - JCattheATM 9mo ago
    > Who funds a federal agent executing a citizen? Racists, fundamentalist christians, xenophobes, anyone happy with the way they think ICE is 'cleaning up' the country, which involves dealing with 'enemies'. > Did they not watch the same videos we all did? They did, and continue to insist on an interpretation not supported at all. It's like literally pointing at green grass and insisting it's red.
- mizzao 9mo ago
  Not disagreeing, but can you link to the source for the rest of us?
  - mothballed 9mo ago
    https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-ice-officer-jonathan-ross https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-ice-officer-jonathan-ross ICE OFFICER Jonathan Ross: After seeing all the media bs about a domestic terrorist getting go fund me. I feel that the officer that was 1000 percent justified in the shooting deserves to have a go fund me. Funds will go to help him.
    - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
      Thanks for the link, hadn’t seen it yet. Definitely an eye-opener for me.
- jerlam 9mo ago
  There's a separate Christian crowdfunding site that caters to this audience. Someone raised $800K for being recorded using racial slurs: https://www.newsweek.com/woman-who-has-raised-800k-online-charged-after-calling-kid-n-word-2119762 https://www.newsweek.com/woman-who-has-raised-800k-online-ch...
OutOfHere 9mo ago
Iran in the making.
imglorp 9mo ago
Yes, they may want a full on Tiananmen every day in every blue city. Suppressing dissent is the end goal; hurting brown people is only a warmup. If the public actually starts to fight back, the Insurrection Act has already been threatened.
- TitaRusell 9mo ago
  This is a good point. Even if you don't like brown people or (illegal) immigrants the Republicans won't stop here. Anyone who isn't a white Christian male is a second class citizen.
ljsprague 9mo ago
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- grumio 9mo ago
  Unclear to me if he was a protestor, he seemed to just be a guy with a camera phone and tried to help a woman stand up. What are you implying, ljsprague?
  - ljsprague 9mo ago
    He had a gun. They were there to interfere.
    - grumio 9mo ago
      having a gun = intent to interfere? Interesting. Does having intent to interfere deserve execution? Oh edit to add: did he interfere? And if so how?
      - ljsprague 9mo ago
        He was there to create chaos in order to interfere with law enforcement. I don't think anyone denies this. And it was very bad that he had a gun when the inevitable confrontation occurred. This is likely why it's illegal to carry a firearm when interfering with or obstructing law enforcement operations.
        datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
        > This is likely why it's illegal to carry a firearm when interfering with or obstructing law enforcement operations. Ah so all you have to do is define your unconstitutional actions as “law enforcement operations” and suddenly we can start throwing away amendments. The founding fathers hate this one trick! > He was there to create chaos in order to interfere with law enforcement. I don't think anyone denies this. I deny this vehemently, mostly under the definitions of “chaos” and “law enforcement”. I do not view outcomes of civil disobedience as “chaos”, and I do not view the actions of ICE in Minneapolis as “law enforcement”. Final edit: your painting of the victim in such a negative light, despite knowing so little about him, is morally repugnant. Observe yourself. “Look for the helpers” - Mr Rogers. Should everyone present at these protests be assumed to be subject to summary execution, no matter their intent? If you’re American, I’m ashamed to be in the same country as you.

by ck2 9mo ago

decremental 9mo ago

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mothballed 9mo ago

Jon Ross got a $750,000 payout via gofundme. So there is also a very large bounty for the murderers to execute someone. The new American dream?

goatlover 9mo ago
Who funds a federal agent executing a citizen? Did they not watch the same videos we all did?
- deleted 9mo ago
  [deleted]
- owyn 9mo ago
  Yes they did, and that's the problem. Some people support this. It's easier to rile up hatred than to fix any real problems. When you spend years framing ALL immigration as illegal, you get a lot of people (like some of my family members) who will say "well, they ARE here illegally so they just need to enforce the law". And yes there are illegal immigrants in this country, but I don't think this kind of violence is the right solution.
- lux-lux-lux 9mo ago
  Bill Ackman, among other people.
- JCattheATM 9mo ago
  > Who funds a federal agent executing a citizen? Racists, fundamentalist christians, xenophobes, anyone happy with the way they think ICE is 'cleaning up' the country, which involves dealing with 'enemies'. > Did they not watch the same videos we all did? They did, and continue to insist on an interpretation not supported at all. It's like literally pointing at green grass and insisting it's red.
mizzao 9mo ago
Not disagreeing, but can you link to the source for the rest of us?
- mothballed 9mo ago
  https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-ice-officer-jonathan-ross https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-ice-officer-jonathan-ross ICE OFFICER Jonathan Ross: After seeing all the media bs about a domestic terrorist getting go fund me. I feel that the officer that was 1000 percent justified in the shooting deserves to have a go fund me. Funds will go to help him.
  - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
    Thanks for the link, hadn’t seen it yet. Definitely an eye-opener for me.
jerlam 9mo ago
There's a separate Christian crowdfunding site that caters to this audience. Someone raised $800K for being recorded using racial slurs: https://www.newsweek.com/woman-who-has-raised-800k-online-charged-after-calling-kid-n-word-2119762 https://www.newsweek.com/woman-who-has-raised-800k-online-ch...

OutOfHere 9mo ago

Iran in the making.

imglorp 9mo ago

Yes, they may want a full on Tiananmen every day in every blue city. Suppressing dissent is the end goal; hurting brown people is only a warmup. If the public actually starts to fight back, the Insurrection Act has already been threatened.

TitaRusell 9mo ago
This is a good point. Even if you don't like brown people or (illegal) immigrants the Republicans won't stop here. Anyone who isn't a white Christian male is a second class citizen.

ljsprague 9mo ago

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grumio 9mo ago
Unclear to me if he was a protestor, he seemed to just be a guy with a camera phone and tried to help a woman stand up. What are you implying, ljsprague?
- ljsprague 9mo ago
  He had a gun. They were there to interfere.
  - grumio 9mo ago
    having a gun = intent to interfere? Interesting. Does having intent to interfere deserve execution? Oh edit to add: did he interfere? And if so how?
    - ljsprague 9mo ago
      He was there to create chaos in order to interfere with law enforcement. I don't think anyone denies this. And it was very bad that he had a gun when the inevitable confrontation occurred. This is likely why it's illegal to carry a firearm when interfering with or obstructing law enforcement operations.
      - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
        > This is likely why it's illegal to carry a firearm when interfering with or obstructing law enforcement operations. Ah so all you have to do is define your unconstitutional actions as “law enforcement operations” and suddenly we can start throwing away amendments. The founding fathers hate this one trick! > He was there to create chaos in order to interfere with law enforcement. I don't think anyone denies this. I deny this vehemently, mostly under the definitions of “chaos” and “law enforcement”. I do not view outcomes of civil disobedience as “chaos”, and I do not view the actions of ICE in Minneapolis as “law enforcement”. Final edit: your painting of the victim in such a negative light, despite knowing so little about him, is morally repugnant. Observe yourself. “Look for the helpers” - Mr Rogers. Should everyone present at these protests be assumed to be subject to summary execution, no matter their intent? If you’re American, I’m ashamed to be in the same country as you.