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Not so much "aiming" as doing it. The alternative already exists, is open-source, and used by 40,000 government users. By 2027 all government agencies will use

Not so much "aiming" as doing it. The alternative already exists, is open-source, and used by 40,000 government users. By 2027 all government agencies will use it exclusively.

duxup 9mo ago
What is that option?
- cocoflunchy 9mo ago
  Visio from https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/
  - bsimpson 9mo ago
    It's funny that it's such a blatant knock-off of Google Workspace - the repos even have the same names: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet I wonder if the emoji will grow into its own set: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet/blob/main/src/frontend/public/assets/reactions/clapping-hands.png https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet/blob/main/src/fronten...
    - omnimus 9mo ago
      It doesn't matter. Office suites are a commodity. Google suite is knockoff of MS Office at certain point in time. That's just the nature of digital - information want's to be free.
      - duxup 9mo ago
        I feel like we would see a lot more movement if we’ve reached the commodity point…
        omnimus 9mo ago
        It's network effects / lock-in. There is a reason why people still use Microsoft Office and that is that surprising amount of industries have everything build around it. In my country anything law related is submitted in Microsoft Word. Academic texts? Microsoft Word. Communication with government? Microsoft Word. The reason why Google Docs somewhat managed to break this was 1. free, 2. multiplayer/easy to share. One law about requiring the state documents to be submitted in open formats, editable in libre software... and the lock instantly breaks.
    - Nextgrid 9mo ago
      > blatant knock-off of Google Workspace - the repos even have the same names That's exactly what we need though, so I see that as a plus.
- mcoliver 9mo ago
  Visio with live kit (part of lasuite) or opendesk with jitsi would be my guess. https://livekit.io/ https://livekit.io/ https://www.clever.cloud/product/visio/ https://www.clever.cloud/product/visio/ https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ https://jitsi.org/ https://jitsi.org/ https://www.opendesk.eu/en https://www.opendesk.eu/en As an aside I am surprised it has taken this long but seems inevitable now given the last 18 months.
  - omnimus 9mo ago
    My bet would be that "the standard" will be Heinlein Groups (company behind mailbox.org) OpenTalk (already better than Jitsy) and now they are doing OpenCloud as scaleable NextCloud alternative. The company behind the projects needs it for their own usecases, has stable business and they have decades of experience.

Not so much "aiming" as doing it. The alternative already exists, is open-source, and used by 40,000 government users. By 2027 all government agencies will use it exclusively.

duxup 9mo ago

What is that option?

cocoflunchy 9mo ago
Visio from https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/
- bsimpson 9mo ago
  It's funny that it's such a blatant knock-off of Google Workspace - the repos even have the same names: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet I wonder if the emoji will grow into its own set: https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet/blob/main/src/frontend/public/assets/reactions/clapping-hands.png https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet/blob/main/src/fronten...
  - omnimus 9mo ago
    It doesn't matter. Office suites are a commodity. Google suite is knockoff of MS Office at certain point in time. That's just the nature of digital - information want's to be free.
    - duxup 9mo ago
      I feel like we would see a lot more movement if we’ve reached the commodity point…
      - omnimus 9mo ago
        It's network effects / lock-in. There is a reason why people still use Microsoft Office and that is that surprising amount of industries have everything build around it. In my country anything law related is submitted in Microsoft Word. Academic texts? Microsoft Word. Communication with government? Microsoft Word. The reason why Google Docs somewhat managed to break this was 1. free, 2. multiplayer/easy to share. One law about requiring the state documents to be submitted in open formats, editable in libre software... and the lock instantly breaks.
  - Nextgrid 9mo ago
    > blatant knock-off of Google Workspace - the repos even have the same names That's exactly what we need though, so I see that as a plus.
mcoliver 9mo ago
Visio with live kit (part of lasuite) or opendesk with jitsi would be my guess. https://livekit.io/ https://livekit.io/ https://www.clever.cloud/product/visio/ https://www.clever.cloud/product/visio/ https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ https://jitsi.org/ https://jitsi.org/ https://www.opendesk.eu/en https://www.opendesk.eu/en As an aside I am surprised it has taken this long but seems inevitable now given the last 18 months.
- omnimus 9mo ago
  My bet would be that "the standard" will be Heinlein Groups (company behind mailbox.org) OpenTalk (already better than Jitsy) and now they are doing OpenCloud as scaleable NextCloud alternative. The company behind the projects needs it for their own usecases, has stable business and they have decades of experience.