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At this moment I just assume by default that those “watchdogs”, “environmentalists”, “nonprofits” are mix of nimby-ists and/or thinly veiled attempts of extrac
by galkk 9mo ago
At this moment I just assume by default that those “watchdogs”, “environmentalists”, “nonprofits” are mix of nimby-ists and/or thinly veiled attempts of extracting money
(it’s a nice things you got here. It would be a shame if some rare species of a frog would be found here. A small donation for the great cause/good, of course, would help us to work on ensuring that nobody gets in harms way).
- viccis 9mo ago>I just assume by default Gitmo couldn't get me to admit to this degree of intellectual cowardice
- random_savv 9mo agoThis comment made me curious is such a thing actually happens. As it turns out "greenmailing" is a thing, but not from environmental groups. Here's what claude found for me: <ai> The concern isn't baseless—there are documented cases of parties using environmental law as leverage, particularly California's CEQA. But empirical studies show only ~13% of such lawsuits actually come from environmental groups; the majority come from labor unions, business competitors, and NIMBYs hijacking environmental review for unrelated purposes. In this specific case, WaterWatch has a 40-year track record on Oregon water issues and the concerns about fish habitat are supported by the Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs—so the 'thinly veiled shakedown' framing doesn't really fit </ai> I hope doing that research didn't spend too much water!
- Nicksil 9mo agoDo you still work for Google?
- galkk 9mo agoNo. Any other questions?
- BoredPositron 9mo agoSpoken like someone who hasn't interacted with the real world in quite some time. There are plenty of third world countries you can have a look at to see how it's going without those pesky rules.
- galkk 9mo agoProjecting much? Where did I say that rules do not apply/shouldn’t apply? I specifically stated my opinion about many types of activists. I’ll repeat my other comment - article quotes only activists/enviromentalists/watchdogs, without any mention of their qualifications in the subject matter. Executive director at Bark, conservation director for environmental group (wtf does it even mean?) are not qualifications
- BoredPositron 9mo agoSince when are job titles qualifications?
- NicuCalcea 9mo agoIt's so refreshing to see someone fully disclose their ignorance in a comment, rather than pretend they're arguing in good faith.
- galkk 9mo agoNah. I pretty much said my option about types of organizations who were mentioned in the article, and the herd immediately assumed that I’m pro-corpo or whatever (enough to see in answers to my comments). Logic isn’t strong suit for many people, I accept that.
- big-guy23 9mo ago[flagged]
- NicuCalcea 9mo agoSo it's okay for you to assume the motives of environmentalists you know nothing about, but you get your knickers in a bunch because you think others assume you're pro-corpo?
- frm88 9mo agoThere are multiple documentations where people have problems with their water level due to data centres [0]. It's also no longer news that data centres are planned/run in arid/desert areas [1]. Scepticism to Google's intentions before the damage is done should be allowed. [0] https://youtu.be/RfzwLtWkVjg?si=OTjSgW6kBDR3-0So https://youtu.be/RfzwLtWkVjg?si=OTjSgW6kBDR3-0So [1] https://youtu.be/Mn5ttoXxAe8?si=EvN2jnIkA9yRAvJb https://youtu.be/Mn5ttoXxAe8?si=EvN2jnIkA9yRAvJb