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Techno accelerationists don't like to be reminded of their complicity.

by Zigurd 9mo ago

tavavex 9mo ago
I don't think accelerationists would mind - even if they believe that what's happening is wrong, going further in is the backbone of the whole ideology, so why would they be having second thoughts? I think the real group behind this is people who are capable of sensing that this is wrong at least on some deeper level, but who are so complacent that they just want not to think about it too much. Maybe it's because they're in too deep, maybe they make too much money off of it to care, maybe their heels are too dug in on social issues for them to ever try to reconsider. Possibly a combination of any of the three.
nicbou 9mo ago
Every thread about US politics has this comment, and the same response: this is not the right outlet, and some people feel like this content does not fit the topic of the website. If you are not American, it’s rather tiring to have every website and news outlet talk about it ad nauseum, and have it take over every subreddit and conversation. Americans get all uppity when you tell them that you don’t want that, as if their news are so important that they transcend categorisation. I care. It’s important. It’s just not the right website.
- senordevnyc 9mo ago
  Then go ignore it on your country’s version of HN.
- datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
  You will be affected by the (hypothetical) fall of American hegemony, whether it’s increased aggression in spheres of influence (Russia, China, India), market failures, or even a fracturing or collapse of digital services (Azure, AWS). I don’t understand the insistence that this isn’t on topic. Hard not to paint it as anything but willfully ignorant.
  - nicbou 9mo ago
    I'm not ignorant. I just don't want it in my morning cereal when it's also everywhere else. Awareness of your country's politics definitely isn't the issue here. I am keenly aware of the US presidents' threats to invade my country. The issue is the insistence that it has to be discussed in every community, all the time, and that the importance transcends categorisation. Every website just becomes another dumping ground for US politics, and when you bring that up, Americans get indignant. It's Hacker News. I am here for news for hackers. The guidelines are pretty explicit: "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic".
    - krapp 9mo ago
      I'm looking at the front page right now and it's entirely "news for hackers." You had to go out of your way to find this thread and make multiple comments complaining about it. Just ignore the thread, or hide it and move on.
      - nicbou 9mo ago
        Yes, because the flagging system works. I'm advocating for things staying that way
        krapp 9mo ago
        One can see flagged stories and the vast majority including the flagged aren't political in nature. Yet people like yourself single out the minority that are, regardless of how civil the discussion is, and flag them anyway. So the visibility of these stories isn't the issue, and the quality of discussion isn't the issue, since neither matter. I wonder what is it that people actually object to?
    - ryandrake 9mo ago
      The web site already has a tool for this: The "hide" button. If you don't want to see an article, just click it and go on eating your cereal.
- johnnyanmac 9mo ago
  Despite the name, this isn't a community for only "hacker" articles. It's overall to promote curiosity and engage those curiosities. There is no hard "no politics" policy here. The spirit of the rule is to not turn this into a 24 hour real time report of the state of the world. But this article isnt that. If you don't find any of the last years of happening this year curious at the bare minimum, I wonder how deeply aware someone really is of it. >If you are not American, it’s rather tiring to have every website and news outlet talk about it ad nauseum I'm sure greenland sees it as tiring too. But of there wasn't such a huge pushback, "tiring" would be the least of their concerns. Why can't we then have a deeper discussion after that to analyze how it came to this (and how to prevent it)? We sure can't have that discussion on Twitter. Also, I'm pretty fundamentalist when it comes to posting on social media: if I don't like it, I don't click in. If I clicked into every AI buzzword post, I'd go insane. But others want it, who am I To judge? Certainly not a moderator. If you want me to moderate, we can discuss pay.

Techno accelerationists don't like to be reminded of their complicity.

by Zigurd 9mo ago

Techno accelerationists don't like to be reminded of their complicity.

I don't think accelerationists would mind - even if they believe that what's happening is wrong, going further in is the backbone of the whole ideology, so why would they be having second thoughts? I think the real group behind this is people who are capable of sensing that this is wrong at least on some deeper level, but who are so complacent that they just want not to think about it too much. Maybe it's because they're in too deep, maybe they make too much money off of it to care, maybe their heels are too dug in on social issues for them to ever try to reconsider. Possibly a combination of any of the three.

nicbou 9mo ago

Every thread about US politics has this comment, and the same response: this is not the right outlet, and some people feel like this content does not fit the topic of the website. If you are not American, it’s rather tiring to have every website and news outlet talk about it ad nauseum, and have it take over every subreddit and conversation. Americans get all uppity when you tell them that you don’t want that, as if their news are so important that they transcend categorisation. I care. It’s important. It’s just not the right website.

senordevnyc 9mo ago
Then go ignore it on your country’s version of HN.
datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
You will be affected by the (hypothetical) fall of American hegemony, whether it’s increased aggression in spheres of influence (Russia, China, India), market failures, or even a fracturing or collapse of digital services (Azure, AWS). I don’t understand the insistence that this isn’t on topic. Hard not to paint it as anything but willfully ignorant.
- nicbou 9mo ago
  I'm not ignorant. I just don't want it in my morning cereal when it's also everywhere else. Awareness of your country's politics definitely isn't the issue here. I am keenly aware of the US presidents' threats to invade my country. The issue is the insistence that it has to be discussed in every community, all the time, and that the importance transcends categorisation. Every website just becomes another dumping ground for US politics, and when you bring that up, Americans get indignant. It's Hacker News. I am here for news for hackers. The guidelines are pretty explicit: "If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic".
  - krapp 9mo ago
    I'm looking at the front page right now and it's entirely "news for hackers." You had to go out of your way to find this thread and make multiple comments complaining about it. Just ignore the thread, or hide it and move on.
    - nicbou 9mo ago
      Yes, because the flagging system works. I'm advocating for things staying that way
      - krapp 9mo ago
        One can see flagged stories and the vast majority including the flagged aren't political in nature. Yet people like yourself single out the minority that are, regardless of how civil the discussion is, and flag them anyway. So the visibility of these stories isn't the issue, and the quality of discussion isn't the issue, since neither matter. I wonder what is it that people actually object to?
  - ryandrake 9mo ago
    The web site already has a tool for this: The "hide" button. If you don't want to see an article, just click it and go on eating your cereal.
johnnyanmac 9mo ago
Despite the name, this isn't a community for only "hacker" articles. It's overall to promote curiosity and engage those curiosities. There is no hard "no politics" policy here. The spirit of the rule is to not turn this into a 24 hour real time report of the state of the world. But this article isnt that. If you don't find any of the last years of happening this year curious at the bare minimum, I wonder how deeply aware someone really is of it. >If you are not American, it’s rather tiring to have every website and news outlet talk about it ad nauseum I'm sure greenland sees it as tiring too. But of there wasn't such a huge pushback, "tiring" would be the least of their concerns. Why can't we then have a deeper discussion after that to analyze how it came to this (and how to prevent it)? We sure can't have that discussion on Twitter. Also, I'm pretty fundamentalist when it comes to posting on social media: if I don't like it, I don't click in. If I clicked into every AI buzzword post, I'd go insane. But others want it, who am I To judge? Certainly not a moderator. If you want me to moderate, we can discuss pay.