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> Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience So for people who don't want to use computers. I cannot work with a tablet or

by hulitu 9mo ago

> Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience So for people who don't want to use computers. I cannot work with a tablet or phone. I need a computer.

swiftcoder 9mo ago
I mean, as someone who is mainly a programmer, same. But high-end cameras, big touchscreens, and an excellent pencil input is sort of the optimal device for a whole bunch of creative tasks
- SoftTalker 9mo ago
  Are the cameras "high-end"? Good for a phone, certainly. But compared to a real camera with a much bigger lens and sensor?
  - AlotOfReading 9mo ago
    They're good enough to have displaced the vast majority of camera purchases, and be used by professionals (e.g. influencers, photojournalists, pro photographers). There are benefits to larger sensors, but the best camera is the one you have in-hand.
  - Forgeties79 9mo ago
    They can certainly hang with some of the big dogs. Apple’s camera(s) and color science is fantastic. The black magic app in particular shows off their capability.
  - JoshTriplett 9mo ago
    > Good for a phone, certainly. The multiple lenses and the processing power make smartphones wildly better than almost any consumer camera, particularly for someone without professional photography skills. A professional camera in the hands of a professional photographer can do better, but that means the market has changed from "consumers buy consumer cameras, professionals buy professional cameras" to "consumers use the camera that's always in their pocket and get surprisingly good results, professionals buy professional cameras".
  - econ 9mo ago
    I make the superior picture with my camera but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today, find a folder, create and name a folder in the folder, copy the pictures there, find and open something to view and edit the images with, find and open something to upload the images. OR open the camera, take out th SD card, boot up a computer, plug the card into a reader or a laptop and do the same ritual. People pretend this is a perfectly acceptable workfow. It is not. The pictures would have to be dramatically better than those made by phones. They are not. I shoot, review on the much larger phone screen, click share and chose from countless options to publish immediately. OR edit it a bit and enjoy the same. I also never consciously bring the phone, it's just there in my pocket. Interesting things happen, you unholster it and start shooting. The real camera is more like guard duty. You sit there waiting for the interesting shot. Sometimes that works out and some of those times the extra quality is actually visible and some of that time it is totally worth it. The rest of the time I wonder what it is I think I'm doing.
    - cesarb 9mo ago
      > but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today [...] OR open the camera, take out th SD card [...] Or open the app on your smartphone (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.canon.ic.cameraconnect https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.canon.ic...), connect to the camera through WiFi, and copy the photos directly.
      - ichicoro 9mo ago
        I don't know about Canon's offering... but Sony's is lackluster to say the least. On my A6000 (and possibly other older models), you can't import RAWs, only JPEGs. Not to add that manual connection to the camera's wifi is a rather "annoying" process, having to go into the camera settings, manually turning on wifi, going into the phone's settings/quick menu to connect to said hotspot, then open the app, etc... It's just a plain worse experience to just some extremely good phones like the iPhones with pro camera apps
      - econ 9mo ago
- epolanski 9mo ago
  I own a galaxy tab s7 fe and I'm quite happy with it to be honest. Not sure what I'd want more from an iPad. It is true that it has slightly more apps, but realistically all I need is there.

by hulitu 9mo ago

> Almost all of the prosumer apps on iOS offer a consistently better experience So for people who don't want to use computers. I cannot work with a tablet or phone. I need a computer.

swiftcoder 9mo ago

I mean, as someone who is mainly a programmer, same. But high-end cameras, big touchscreens, and an excellent pencil input is sort of the optimal device for a whole bunch of creative tasks

SoftTalker 9mo ago
Are the cameras "high-end"? Good for a phone, certainly. But compared to a real camera with a much bigger lens and sensor?
- AlotOfReading 9mo ago
  They're good enough to have displaced the vast majority of camera purchases, and be used by professionals (e.g. influencers, photojournalists, pro photographers). There are benefits to larger sensors, but the best camera is the one you have in-hand.
- Forgeties79 9mo ago
  They can certainly hang with some of the big dogs. Apple’s camera(s) and color science is fantastic. The black magic app in particular shows off their capability.
- JoshTriplett 9mo ago
  > Good for a phone, certainly. The multiple lenses and the processing power make smartphones wildly better than almost any consumer camera, particularly for someone without professional photography skills. A professional camera in the hands of a professional photographer can do better, but that means the market has changed from "consumers buy consumer cameras, professionals buy professional cameras" to "consumers use the camera that's always in their pocket and get surprisingly good results, professionals buy professional cameras".
- econ 9mo ago
  I make the superior picture with my camera but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today, find a folder, create and name a folder in the folder, copy the pictures there, find and open something to view and edit the images with, find and open something to upload the images. OR open the camera, take out th SD card, boot up a computer, plug the card into a reader or a laptop and do the same ritual. People pretend this is a perfectly acceptable workfow. It is not. The pictures would have to be dramatically better than those made by phones. They are not. I shoot, review on the much larger phone screen, click share and chose from countless options to publish immediately. OR edit it a bit and enjoy the same. I also never consciously bring the phone, it's just there in my pocket. Interesting things happen, you unholster it and start shooting. The real camera is more like guard duty. You sit there waiting for the interesting shot. Sometimes that works out and some of those times the extra quality is actually visible and some of that time it is totally worth it. The rest of the time I wonder what it is I think I'm doing.
  - cesarb 9mo ago
    > but then it sits there on an SD card in the camera. I have to boot a desktop, hope the USB connection works today [...] OR open the camera, take out th SD card [...] Or open the app on your smartphone (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.canon.ic.cameraconnect https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.canon.ic...), connect to the camera through WiFi, and copy the photos directly.
    - ichicoro 9mo ago
      I don't know about Canon's offering... but Sony's is lackluster to say the least. On my A6000 (and possibly other older models), you can't import RAWs, only JPEGs. Not to add that manual connection to the camera's wifi is a rather "annoying" process, having to go into the camera settings, manually turning on wifi, going into the phone's settings/quick menu to connect to said hotspot, then open the app, etc... It's just a plain worse experience to just some extremely good phones like the iPhones with pro camera apps
    - econ 9mo ago
epolanski 9mo ago
I own a galaxy tab s7 fe and I'm quite happy with it to be honest. Not sure what I'd want more from an iPad. It is true that it has slightly more apps, but realistically all I need is there.