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They just murdered a guy who was not obstructing them. They kidnap, beat and then throw away citizens and legal migrants.
by watwut 10mo ago
They just murdered a guy who was not obstructing them.
They kidnap, beat and then throw away citizens and legal migrants.
- indubioprorubik 10mo ago[flagged]
- saubeidl 10mo agoSo, thought crime? I thought right wingers were all about individual freedoms, now all of a sudden you want to dictate the values of your fellow citizens?
- SilverElfin 10mo agoNo one is required to integrate. You can think freely and be who you want. First amendment.
- indubioprorubik 10mo ago[flagged]
- lurking_swe 10mo agoi just replied and then saw the comment was flagged LOL. For those that missed it the flagged comment said something stupid like “don’t obstruct ICE and you’ll be fine.” They are misinformed i’m afraid. This is the BEST case scenario: https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-immigration-us-citizen-detained-hmong-d009590a491c0c8243ef21ef24db7182 https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-immigration-us-citizen-... worst case scenario is you’re sent to another country, or killed.
- exe34 10mo agoI'd like them to explain, step by step, how holding a camera to document what ice is doing, can be considered obstruction. Are they doing illegal things that are obstructed by publicly available documentation?
- exe34 10mo agoWhat scares me the most isn't that we got into this situation, but that so many people think it's going well.
- indubioprorubik 10mo agoThe majority voted for this- this is the will of the people.
- saubeidl 10mo agoThe majority did not. A third did.
- tock 10mo agoIt was the second highest voter turnout in US history.
- saubeidl 10mo agoWhich speaks to the weakness of US democracy. Nonetheless, only a third of the voting population voted for this.
- tock 10mo agoNot really. 1/3rd voted for this and 1/3rd were ok with either candidate. Sometimes people democratically vote for bad shit.
- saubeidl 10mo agoNot caring which option wins is not the same as voting for something.
- krapp 10mo agoChoosing not to vote is implicitly voting for the status quo, whatever it happens to be. It's accepting fate. If voters saw the first Trump term and knew about Project 2025 (which was public and publicly discussed) and didn't care enough to vote against the implementation of what was happening right under their noses then that isn't much different than voting for him. If anything it's worse. At least the right is actively evil. At least voting third party, futile as it is, is making a statement. Seeing Trump's movement gain and consolidate power, listening to their beliefs, seeing the preparation of political infrastructure, January 6th, stacking the Supreme Court, the normalization of white supremacy, and knowing fascism could be a vote away and not giving a damn shows a depth of poisonous cynicism and cowardice that should brand a person for life. That will brand our entire society for a generation.
- SilverElfin 10mo agoYep, Pretti was a citizen. As was the Hmong person they detained in his underwear. Most of the people they detain aren’t criminals. > People are obstructing armed immigration enforcement and expecting to come away unscathed. It’s scary that people actually think like this. These types of unprincipled excuses for lawlessness and murder are how authoritarians get into power. It might have been more excusable in the past but not today when the videos show the murder for the whole world to see.
- xdennis 10mo ago> They just murdered a guy who was not obstructing them. They shouldn't have shot him since he was not being violent. But he did obstruct: he was standing in middle of the street, acting like a traffic cop. When border patrol tried to arrest a woman, he got between them and the woman. That is obstruction! After that they shot him without any reason.