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I don't think the sentiment the poster you're interacting with is anything novel or surprising to find on HN. To be honest it's largely the prevailing outlook f

I don't think the sentiment the poster you're interacting with is anything novel or surprising to find on HN. To be honest it's largely the prevailing outlook from what I understand (maybe with some more reserved language) ESPECIALLY for those not intimately connected with SV in America. I'd definitely be having these thoughts a bit more often if I was someone in another country that found out my govt is using their services, even more so with the recent migrate-off-us-tech momentum.

gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
imn a software engineer/entrepreneur .. and i’m british, and that article is about UK public services ... so this isn’t distant or abstract for me .. aslo, SV isnt some monolith I’m disconnected from .. even without living there .. its companies (especially those ones that can be seen from this original poster (imbecile ?) view point as evil have materially shaped my career and opportunities in ways that wouldn’t have existed otherwise .. btw .. you can be skeptical of Palantir or US tech influence without collapsing everything into an us verus them narrative or assuming disagreement maps cleanly to geography ..
- tombert 9mo ago
  I didn't reduce it to "us vs. them", I said that they and their CEO are creepy. You took that personally because you parasocially love Daddy Alex.
- hackable_sand 9mo ago
  "entrepreneur" LOL
  - gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
    hackable_sand poor lol
  - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
    Yeah sometimes I question the time and effort I give to some comments on this forum, especially when it comes to more nuanced non-programming topics. I’ve seen what some people have to say about programming and it’s appalling… extend that to something on which they’re not even formally educated? Yeesh
    - gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
      lol. Losing must suck.
      - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
        “Losing” tells me your brain probably isn’t even fully developed. It’s even worse…
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- popalchemist 9mo ago
  Okay, that rationale was suitable for other eras, however in THIS MOMENT, the "us vs them" is actually an accurate description of CLASS WARFARE BEING WAGED BY THE TECHNOCRAT/PLUTOCRAT CLASS. Wake up. Furthermore, what is NOT evil about a company who enables the mass surveillance of citizens by the government so that the government can target them for kidnapping, home invasion, and murder (no exaggeration - it's what's happening, see the front page article today about Palintir's enabling of it) as political retribution for dissenting against fascism? It's evil. We can say it. Don't gatekeep it.
tombert 9mo ago
I mean, isn't this kind of the point of Palantir? Like don't they want to be known as a technological Big Brother? If they weren't Silicon Valley Big Brother, then why would a government even want to use their service? It feels like they want to have their cake and eat it too; they hate the negative press calling them creepy, but also depend on that press to do their marketing because if they weren't creepy then they wouldn't have a product.

gyanchawdhary 9mo ago

imn a software engineer/entrepreneur .. and i’m british, and that article is about UK public services ... so this isn’t distant or abstract for me .. aslo, SV isnt some monolith I’m disconnected from .. even without living there .. its companies (especially those ones that can be seen from this original poster (imbecile ?) view point as evil have materially shaped my career and opportunities in ways that wouldn’t have existed otherwise .. btw .. you can be skeptical of Palantir or US tech influence without collapsing everything into an us verus them narrative or assuming disagreement maps cleanly to geography ..

tombert 9mo ago
I didn't reduce it to "us vs. them", I said that they and their CEO are creepy. You took that personally because you parasocially love Daddy Alex.
hackable_sand 9mo ago
"entrepreneur" LOL
- gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
  hackable_sand poor lol
- datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
  Yeah sometimes I question the time and effort I give to some comments on this forum, especially when it comes to more nuanced non-programming topics. I’ve seen what some people have to say about programming and it’s appalling… extend that to something on which they’re not even formally educated? Yeesh
  - gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
    lol. Losing must suck.
    - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
      “Losing” tells me your brain probably isn’t even fully developed. It’s even worse…
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popalchemist 9mo ago
Okay, that rationale was suitable for other eras, however in THIS MOMENT, the "us vs them" is actually an accurate description of CLASS WARFARE BEING WAGED BY THE TECHNOCRAT/PLUTOCRAT CLASS. Wake up. Furthermore, what is NOT evil about a company who enables the mass surveillance of citizens by the government so that the government can target them for kidnapping, home invasion, and murder (no exaggeration - it's what's happening, see the front page article today about Palintir's enabling of it) as political retribution for dissenting against fascism? It's evil. We can say it. Don't gatekeep it.

tombert 9mo ago

I mean, isn't this kind of the point of Palantir? Like don't they want to be known as a technological Big Brother? If they weren't Silicon Valley Big Brother, then why would a government even want to use their service? It feels like they want to have their cake and eat it too; they hate the negative press calling them creepy, but also depend on that press to do their marketing because if they weren't creepy then they wouldn't have a product.