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Correct. I expect the author of the article must also recognize that Big Tech is in the same basket and are just as complicit for the sake of consistency. The

by rvz 10mo ago

Correct. I expect the author of the article must also recognize that Big Tech is in the same basket and are just as complicit for the sake of consistency. The problem is, we just don't hear about it often. When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations, which doesn't work because I agree. So when I saw this in the article: > Palantir’s tentacles are already extending into our communities. In my constituency of Coventry, the Labour-run council awarded the company a £500,000 contract to develop an AI tool for children’s services. Google [1], Microsoft [2], Amazon [3] are no different and these are just a few of them and they are just as bad as Palantir and all of them are in the SNP 500 directly in the portfolios of pension funds. So it is indeed a waste of time trying to picking and choose US tech companies on this. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683 [1] https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366634759/Google-wins-multimillion-pound-contract-to-supply-sovereign-cloud-services-to-Nato https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366634759/Google-wins-mu... [2] https://www.digitalhealth.net/2023/06/nhs-signs-new-microsoft-deal-worth-three-quarters-of-a-billion-pounds/ https://www.digitalhealth.net/2023/06/nhs-signs-new-microsof... [3] https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366566172/AWS-secures-894m-in-cloud-spend-across-three-contracts-with-UK-government-on-same-day https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366566172/AWS-secures-89...

deaux 10mo ago
You put it perfectly, and I have the exact same experience. If the likes of AWS, Microsoft and Google weren't super eager to partner with the likes of Palantir from day one, the latter would never have gotten off of the ground. > When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations Another one I often see is the "but Peter Thiel" (as in a reply to my initial comment, but also in the threads you're talking about), as if other big tech CEOs such as Bezos and Zuckerberg have even one extra moral fiber in their body that puts them in a notably different category. Do you happen to have a (semi-)public presence anywhere? It's hard to find people who understand this and are honest about it, and inherently harder than simply joining one of the bigger tribes, whether it's the HN "other big tech isn't nearly as bad" one, or the shoulder-shrugging crowd.

by rvz 10mo ago

deaux 10mo ago

You put it perfectly, and I have the exact same experience. If the likes of AWS, Microsoft and Google weren't super eager to partner with the likes of Palantir from day one, the latter would never have gotten off of the ground. > When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations Another one I often see is the "but Peter Thiel" (as in a reply to my initial comment, but also in the threads you're talking about), as if other big tech CEOs such as Bezos and Zuckerberg have even one extra moral fiber in their body that puts them in a notably different category. Do you happen to have a (semi-)public presence anywhere? It's hard to find people who understand this and are honest about it, and inherently harder than simply joining one of the bigger tribes, whether it's the HN "other big tech isn't nearly as bad" one, or the shoulder-shrugging crowd.