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The more I read about Palantir, the creepier and weirder it becomes. The CEO brags about wanting to kill all journalists with fentanyl, or brags about how their

by tombert 9mo ago

The more I read about Palantir, the creepier and weirder it becomes. The CEO brags about wanting to kill all journalists with fentanyl, or brags about how their software will be used to kill people, and how readily they're willing to work for the convicted fraudster that America felt fit to give the nuclear codes. And despite this company being creepy and weird and bizarre and secretive, they are also trying to make themselves a lifestyle brand by selling merchandise. If I felt like spending $150 for a Palantir-based hoodie, I guess I can normally do that [1], but disturbingly it is apparently "sold out". Apparently a lot of people really want to buy an overpriced sweater, or maybe they're trying to preemptively buy social credit. Who knows. Everything is terrible. [1] https://store.palantir.com/ https://store.palantir.com/

MagicMoonlight 9mo ago
Aww, they’re sold out
- tombert 9mo ago
  I know! How will I get Alex Karp to notice me now????
nextos 9mo ago
Ironically, the Danish Government is a heavy user of Palantir systems, including creepy predictive policing solutions. I would be keen to know if citizen data is being handled correctly, following GDPR/LED. Given previous Danish client-state-like cooperation with NSA to spy on other EU countries, I can imagine the answer.
- lostlogin 9mo ago
  > including creepy predictive policing solutions. Minority Report coming right up.
- hexbin010 9mo ago
  I love how powerful the GDPR marketing was that it made people forget that there are massive exceptions for prevention of crime and for the government
- izacus 9mo ago
  GDPR has carveouts for governments and law enforcement so they can do whatever for those purposes.
  - nextos 9mo ago
    The framework is the one I referred to (EU LED). In Denmark, LED is implemented in the Danish Law Enforcement Act. However, LED has some purpose limitations, which critics argue the Danish Law Enforcement Act has bypassed. Some are trying to challenge it.
- anton001 9mo ago
  Which predictive policing solution from palantir are they using?
  - nextos 9mo ago
    Their local Palantir implementation is called POL-INTEL. This thesis presents a good critical overview [1]. [1] https://en.itu.dk/-/media/EN/Research/PhD-Programme/PhD-defences/2025/Bjrn-Karlsson-pdf.pdf https://en.itu.dk/-/media/EN/Research/PhD-Programme/PhD-defe...
gabaix 9mo ago
Karp is a philosopher by training that has fallen into ideological blindness. He claims that he is on the right side of history. Democracies need Palantir badly. He preaches his views to his employees. No one in his flock seems to wonder what would happen if their tools were to be used against democracy.
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  By that kind of reasoning the Mafia is doing just great. Not everything is about money.
- assaddayinh 9mo ago
  Karp is a philosopher who had to look at humanity as it is without the idealizations. Longtermism, dark enlightenment, yada ya.. all just fancy terms for enlightenment, actual progress. Not the delusions that you can talk yourself into when high on resources. The points made while on drugs are worse than worthless they are dangerous to longterm survival and those who engage in this are deeply amoral. Most of humanity is basically glorified stoners, congratulating themselves on how high they get while their futures starve. The opinion of the retarded about the warden is always that he is evil. Go, get yourself some access to a database collected from the seeing stones(aka cellphones) and write your own behavioural queries. Look at the damage and weep. Realize the best we can manage is stabilization in shitty conditions because the warmode species is to retarded. And then go on the web and listen to the blabber of the retarded. Fusion and mini reactors will save civilzation. Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Thats why panopticon, thats why electric drugs (games), thats why scenario root hardening, including hardening against government tribalist retardation. Go buy yourself a hoodie. Oh, and its all good, we are going to mars.
  - datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
    > Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Interesting, plausible, and yet something I have never heard of before despite believing myself relatively well-read. Do you have a source for this, even if it was an unverified leak?
gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
This reads like someone who replaced thinking with the word “creepy” and hit paste until it felt like an opinion. If your critique is just moral panic (and I guess merch anxiety) you’re not exposing anything … and speaking of merch, their Karp “Dominate” shirt is absolutely killer
- tombert 9mo ago
  I'm sorry, which forum do you think you're on? This isn't a fucking "publication", it's a discussion forum for a bunch of software geeks. I'm not trying to "expose" anything, I'm saying that when I read about how much crap they do, how much they work with ICE, and how deeply unlikable the CEO is, then yeah they're creepy. It really is just an "opinion", so you trying to call that out shows a lack of comprehension of the forum and honestly the English language as a whole. Frankly, I think the fact that you're so willing to simp for a creepy billionaire and a creepy multi-billion dollar company so much as to call one of their shirts "absolutely killer" says a lot more about you than anything else.
  - gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
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    - noitpmeder 9mo ago
      I don't think the sentiment the poster you're interacting with is anything novel or surprising to find on HN. To be honest it's largely the prevailing outlook from what I understand (maybe with some more reserved language) ESPECIALLY for those not intimately connected with SV in America. I'd definitely be having these thoughts a bit more often if I was someone in another country that found out my govt is using their services, even more so with the recent migrate-off-us-tech momentum.
      - gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
        imn a software engineer/entrepreneur .. and i’m british, and that article is about UK public services ... so this isn’t distant or abstract for me .. aslo, SV isnt some monolith I’m disconnected from .. even without living there .. its companies (especially those ones that can be seen from this original poster (imbecile ?) view point as evil have materially shaped my career and opportunities in ways that wouldn’t have existed otherwise .. btw .. you can be skeptical of Palantir or US tech influence without collapsing everything into an us verus them narrative or assuming disagreement maps cleanly to geography ..

by tombert 9mo ago

MagicMoonlight 9mo ago

Aww, they’re sold out

tombert 9mo ago
I know! How will I get Alex Karp to notice me now????

nextos 9mo ago

Ironically, the Danish Government is a heavy user of Palantir systems, including creepy predictive policing solutions. I would be keen to know if citizen data is being handled correctly, following GDPR/LED. Given previous Danish client-state-like cooperation with NSA to spy on other EU countries, I can imagine the answer.

lostlogin 9mo ago
> including creepy predictive policing solutions. Minority Report coming right up.
hexbin010 9mo ago
I love how powerful the GDPR marketing was that it made people forget that there are massive exceptions for prevention of crime and for the government
izacus 9mo ago
GDPR has carveouts for governments and law enforcement so they can do whatever for those purposes.
- nextos 9mo ago
  The framework is the one I referred to (EU LED). In Denmark, LED is implemented in the Danish Law Enforcement Act. However, LED has some purpose limitations, which critics argue the Danish Law Enforcement Act has bypassed. Some are trying to challenge it.
anton001 9mo ago
Which predictive policing solution from palantir are they using?
- nextos 9mo ago
  Their local Palantir implementation is called POL-INTEL. This thesis presents a good critical overview [1]. [1] https://en.itu.dk/-/media/EN/Research/PhD-Programme/PhD-defences/2025/Bjrn-Karlsson-pdf.pdf https://en.itu.dk/-/media/EN/Research/PhD-Programme/PhD-defe...

gabaix 9mo ago

Karp is a philosopher by training that has fallen into ideological blindness. He claims that he is on the right side of history. Democracies need Palantir badly. He preaches his views to his employees. No one in his flock seems to wonder what would happen if their tools were to be used against democracy.

jacquesm 9mo ago
By that kind of reasoning the Mafia is doing just great. Not everything is about money.
assaddayinh 9mo ago
Karp is a philosopher who had to look at humanity as it is without the idealizations. Longtermism, dark enlightenment, yada ya.. all just fancy terms for enlightenment, actual progress. Not the delusions that you can talk yourself into when high on resources. The points made while on drugs are worse than worthless they are dangerous to longterm survival and those who engage in this are deeply amoral. Most of humanity is basically glorified stoners, congratulating themselves on how high they get while their futures starve. The opinion of the retarded about the warden is always that he is evil. Go, get yourself some access to a database collected from the seeing stones(aka cellphones) and write your own behavioural queries. Look at the damage and weep. Realize the best we can manage is stabilization in shitty conditions because the warmode species is to retarded. And then go on the web and listen to the blabber of the retarded. Fusion and mini reactors will save civilzation. Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Thats why panopticon, thats why electric drugs (games), thats why scenario root hardening, including hardening against government tribalist retardation. Go buy yourself a hoodie. Oh, and its all good, we are going to mars.
- datsci_est_2015 9mo ago
  > Meanwhile they handed out proliferation "tracking nukes" aka lookalikes with gps) in every war since the coldwar and guess what the fanatics already have blown it up, several times. Interesting, plausible, and yet something I have never heard of before despite believing myself relatively well-read. Do you have a source for this, even if it was an unverified leak?

gyanchawdhary 9mo ago

This reads like someone who replaced thinking with the word “creepy” and hit paste until it felt like an opinion. If your critique is just moral panic (and I guess merch anxiety) you’re not exposing anything … and speaking of merch, their Karp “Dominate” shirt is absolutely killer

tombert 9mo ago
I'm sorry, which forum do you think you're on? This isn't a fucking "publication", it's a discussion forum for a bunch of software geeks. I'm not trying to "expose" anything, I'm saying that when I read about how much crap they do, how much they work with ICE, and how deeply unlikable the CEO is, then yeah they're creepy. It really is just an "opinion", so you trying to call that out shows a lack of comprehension of the forum and honestly the English language as a whole. Frankly, I think the fact that you're so willing to simp for a creepy billionaire and a creepy multi-billion dollar company so much as to call one of their shirts "absolutely killer" says a lot more about you than anything else.
- gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
  [flagged]
  - noitpmeder 9mo ago
    I don't think the sentiment the poster you're interacting with is anything novel or surprising to find on HN. To be honest it's largely the prevailing outlook from what I understand (maybe with some more reserved language) ESPECIALLY for those not intimately connected with SV in America. I'd definitely be having these thoughts a bit more often if I was someone in another country that found out my govt is using their services, even more so with the recent migrate-off-us-tech momentum.
    - gyanchawdhary 9mo ago
      imn a software engineer/entrepreneur .. and i’m british, and that article is about UK public services ... so this isn’t distant or abstract for me .. aslo, SV isnt some monolith I’m disconnected from .. even without living there .. its companies (especially those ones that can be seen from this original poster (imbecile ?) view point as evil have materially shaped my career and opportunities in ways that wouldn’t have existed otherwise .. btw .. you can be skeptical of Palantir or US tech influence without collapsing everything into an us verus them narrative or assuming disagreement maps cleanly to geography ..