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The start menu search is turning blank and shows a white screen whenever I search anything. Similar to how react apps break. It's been like this for 6 momths, a

The start menu search is turning blank and shows a white screen whenever I search anything. Similar to how react apps break. It's been like this for 6 momths, across two laptops, fresh install of 25h2.

mindracer 9mo ago
Search on Windows is completely pointless, it’s been broken for years at this point. I’ve installed PowerToys and use Command Palette now
- londons_explore 9mo ago
  It was never good when you compare to internet search. On the internet I can search for "pictures of the eiffel tower". If I try the same on my own computer I expect to find photos from the time I took the family to paris... Yet I don't.
  - Propelloni 9mo ago
    And yet Gnome and KDE have no troubles doing just that if you activate the corresponding plug-ins for the respective search engines (Tracker and Baloo). How you access them is a matter of taste, but both integrate into your runner dialog or launch menu, if you wish.
  - 1718627440 9mo ago
    But that's not the point of the Start Menu. The purpose is to quickly start programs with a fixed name, not to do a natural language query. Yet it sucks with that simple task. If programs would add themselves to the PATH, then Win-R would be a worthy replacement. As they don't, it is not.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  > I’ve installed PowerToys and Does PowerToys still installs new updates once a work-day, and never delete it's old updates so you end up with GBs of useless .exe's? Remember discovering about 200GB of old updates back when I was still using Windows.
wizzwizz4 9mo ago
The start menu is a React app!
- itopaloglu83 9mo ago
  Simply ridiculous, a vital part of the OS is being drawn by a web framework, so that they can mingle it with ads more efficiently.
- p_ing 9mo ago
  Start menu uses XAML Islands, not React. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072911-explorer-the-start-menu-and-other-xaml-dependent-apps-might-not-start-or-close-unexpectedly-on-some-enterprise-devices-d2d30684-4e2b-47f5-9899-a00a8e0acb09 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072911-explorer...
  - wizzwizz4 9mo ago
    It uses React Native, via https://github.com/microsoft/react-native-xaml https://github.com/microsoft/react-native-xaml. This is probably mixed with "native" XAML components, but it's still firmly in the "buggy React app" category in my book: a framework that works well with React probably has the same design flaws that lead to React-esque crashes. It's very difficult to find information about this online: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46471701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46471701 is the only thing that remotely smells like a secondary source, with most of the rest of the search results being obvious ChatGPT output. (That, too, is Microsoft's fault.)

mindracer 9mo ago

Search on Windows is completely pointless, it’s been broken for years at this point. I’ve installed PowerToys and use Command Palette now

londons_explore 9mo ago
It was never good when you compare to internet search. On the internet I can search for "pictures of the eiffel tower". If I try the same on my own computer I expect to find photos from the time I took the family to paris... Yet I don't.
- Propelloni 9mo ago
  And yet Gnome and KDE have no troubles doing just that if you activate the corresponding plug-ins for the respective search engines (Tracker and Baloo). How you access them is a matter of taste, but both integrate into your runner dialog or launch menu, if you wish.
- 1718627440 9mo ago
  But that's not the point of the Start Menu. The purpose is to quickly start programs with a fixed name, not to do a natural language query. Yet it sucks with that simple task. If programs would add themselves to the PATH, then Win-R would be a worthy replacement. As they don't, it is not.
embedding-shape 9mo ago
> I’ve installed PowerToys and Does PowerToys still installs new updates once a work-day, and never delete it's old updates so you end up with GBs of useless .exe's? Remember discovering about 200GB of old updates back when I was still using Windows.

wizzwizz4 9mo ago

The start menu is a React app!

itopaloglu83 9mo ago
Simply ridiculous, a vital part of the OS is being drawn by a web framework, so that they can mingle it with ads more efficiently.
p_ing 9mo ago
Start menu uses XAML Islands, not React. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072911-explorer-the-start-menu-and-other-xaml-dependent-apps-might-not-start-or-close-unexpectedly-on-some-enterprise-devices-d2d30684-4e2b-47f5-9899-a00a8e0acb09 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb5072911-explorer...
- wizzwizz4 9mo ago
  It uses React Native, via https://github.com/microsoft/react-native-xaml https://github.com/microsoft/react-native-xaml. This is probably mixed with "native" XAML components, but it's still firmly in the "buggy React app" category in my book: a framework that works well with React probably has the same design flaws that lead to React-esque crashes. It's very difficult to find information about this online: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46471701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46471701 is the only thing that remotely smells like a secondary source, with most of the rest of the search results being obvious ChatGPT output. (That, too, is Microsoft's fault.)