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Backup cameras are an enormous safety improvement. Plus touchscreens are much cheaper than buttons and knobs.
by sagarm 9mo ago
Backup cameras are an enormous safety improvement. Plus touchscreens are much cheaper than buttons and knobs.
- DaSHacka 9mo ago> Backup cameras are an enormous safety improvement. Sure, however.... > Plus touchscreens are much cheaper than buttons and knobs. And how much LESS safe is using a touchscreen while operating a motor vehicle? Its literally no different from using an iPad.
- bluGill 9mo agoThere are large implementation differences in touch screens. My wife's care needs several second: turn the radio on, wait for the splash screen, press the drives heat control, wait for it to appear (100s of ms - long enough to notice) then find the button in the miedle of the screen - finally I can change the heated seats. My car that button is always has the button at the bottom of the screen in the same place so is is ms to look and see.
- DaSHacka 9mo agoYou still lose the tactile feedback of the button though. It's much harder to hit it while not looking versus a physical knob. There's a reason Euro NCAP requires physical climate controls for ca models to get a five star safety rating starting in 2026.
- stephenr 9mo agoBackup cameras are an enormous safety improvement. You know that a backup camera can be added to practically any car right? My ~2002 Toyota has a Pioneer deck from around 2007 (I guess?) that supports reversing camera input. My wifes 2012 Toyota hybrid has a reversing camera using some POS cheap Chinese deck that's so shit it doesn't even support Bluetooth audio. No part of reversing cameras are dependent on any of the "modern" trends in cars that are being discussed here.
- sagarm 9mo agoI responded to a comment about screens.
- stephenr 9mo agoYou don't need 'dual 12.3" touch screens' for a reversing camera.
- sagarm 9mo agoI should have mentioned a digital dashboard is also cheaper than a traditional one, I guess. But isn't that obvious?
- stephenr 9mo agoWhat's that got to do with reversing cameras?
- sagarm 9mo agoDual screens. One for infotainment, including the backup camera, the other for the dash. Have you never seen a newer model car?
- stephenr 9mo agoI feel like you're deliberately missing the point. You don't need them to have a reversing camera. Literally millions of cars over the past 2 decades have perfectly fine reversing cameras using the screen of a regular double-DIN deck (or fold out single-DIN deck).
- sagarm 9mo agoI, too, felt you were being intentionally dense in this thread. We've just been talking past each other. I don't see a meaningful distinction between a screen on a DIN unit and an integrated screen. With Android Auto or the ios equivalent -- a hard requirement for most car buyers today -- a touchscreen is basically required. Other "smart" features aren't required but I'm not surprised car companies want to try and extract value from in-car tech. It's got nothing to do with providing value to consumers.