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No, you didnt. You basically said illigal immigration is bad because its illegal. You didnt include positive effects, like economic contribution. That positive
by throwawayqqq11 9mo ago
No, you didnt. You basically said illigal immigration is bad because its illegal. You didnt include positive effects, like economic contribution. That positive conclusion about immigration is scientific consensus btw. Its easy to find if you dare to observe it.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoI’m liberal so I believe in governmental regulation which includes legal immigration and labor rights. I believe illegal immigrants shouldn’t be exploited by private businesses and citizens should be paid a living wage.
- throwawayqqq11 9mo agoAdd a "well integrated illegal immigrants should have a path to citizenship" and you would contradict your first comment about illegal immigrants being harmful. What legallity is, is not written is stone.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoIf you’re a conservative capitalist that would sound good but I’m liberal. My understanding of government and liberalism is consistent with that of people like Bernie Sanders and Noam Chomsky. What you’re suggesting, by their standards, is a paradox.
- Starman_Jones 9mo agoIs either Noam Chomsky or Bernie Sanders a liberal, though? It sounds like you're very confused about what you believe - almost like a conservative's straw man idea of a liberal.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoNoam Chomsky is far left and Bernie Sanders is also more liberal than a Democrat. Here is Sanders saying the same thing I did https://youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0&pp=2AYH https://youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0&pp=2AYH I’m confused, what do you think a liberal is?
- Starman_Jones 9mo agoLiberals are people who believe in liberalism. This necessarily precludes them from being on the far left (and has for well over a century).
- slowhadoken 9mo agoIn the US “liberal” is often used as a short hand for “left wing”, Isaiah Berlin calls it ‘negative liberty’. Noam Chomsky describes himself as a ‘libertarian socialist’ and Bernie Sanders describes himself as a ‘democratic socialist’, both of these political stances are left wing, some would says “far left”.
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