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But the MAGA cult will find yet another explanation that this man magically hurt the 4 ICE agents and they all ended up in a hospital somehow, or that carrying

by thiht 9mo ago

But the MAGA cult will find yet another explanation that this man magically hurt the 4 ICE agents and they all ended up in a hospital somehow, or that carrying weapons with a permit is unacceptable if you vote democrat

shepherdjerred 9mo ago
> "Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene," DHS said. "The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement." https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-involved-shooting-reported-minneapolis https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-involved-shooting-r...
- insane_dreamer 9mo ago
  we can never trust a word coming out of DHS ever again
- matsemann 9mo ago
  Were the mag dumping into the lifeless body also "protective shots"? Holy crap they're lying straight to your faces with video evidence against them. How come they can do this without consequence?
nunez 9mo ago
Actually the folks at /r/conservative are more-or-less agreeing with the left-leaning majority opinion at the moment. https://archive.ph/nYEXh https://archive.ph/nYEXh
- ceejayoz 9mo ago
  That happens every time. A few hours later the talking points get decided on and it’s suddenly crickets. (Plus a few bans.)
  - seattle_spring 9mo ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1qlzhb3/ice_kills_yet_another_protestor_a_study_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1qlzhb3/ice... The narrative has officially shifted to, "ICE subdued an armed supremest with gang ties."
    - Sabinus 9mo ago
      That is legitimately scary. That's narrative control tracked live. Any comment critical of 5 ice officers shooting one guy they gave disarmed and face down in the street were deleted by the mods. I can understand this for the last ICE shooting where it's possible the officer legitimately feared for his life. Not so for this shooting. I'm divided on if the r/Conservative mods are deliberate foreign agitprop actors, Trump admin employees, or MAGA true believers.
- int_19h 9mo ago
  Meanwhile on AR15.com most comments are along the lines of, "good, they should be shooting more commies".
- xdennis 9mo ago
  [flagged]
  - matsemann 9mo ago
    Is there something inherent in conservativism that you have to be a bigot to be one? I didn't know. Your comment is a bit "no true Scotsman vibes".
    - stackbutterflow 9mo ago
      However conservatives define conservatism in their mind it always ends up for a vote for the bigots in the ballot.
- latexr 9mo ago
  > more-or-less After reading the thread, pretty sure it’s “less”. The most common and fervent “disagreement” in that thread is “this should be investigated”. People who believe there’s any chance of that happening (without a regime change), have to be so embarrassingly naive that they could be tortured themselves and would still defend the torturers.
komali2 9mo ago
That it's a cult needs to be better recognized by the mainstream in the USA. This podcast gave me more insight than I wanted into the Trump cult being well and truly a cult: https://open.spotify.com/show/3hkMl04iMcdayIhxFbL9WT https://open.spotify.com/show/3hkMl04iMcdayIhxFbL9WT It's two libbed up people talking with their fully steeped Trumpian parents, trying and failing to find common ground. Horrifyingly the parents recently said they would support Trump even if he ordered federal agents to kill everyone indiscriminately in a random mall in LA, and their adult kids were murdered as a result.
- selimthegrim 9mo ago
  In 2016 I watched not only tax-exempt churches on the airwaves in MS campaigning for Trump but Trump appearing in an ad saying “I’ll make every dream you ever dreamed come true.” It was so blatant I actually filled out the complaint form to the IRS or FEC (I can’t remember which) all the way but didn’t send it.
- Hikikomori 9mo ago
  This isn't really trump anymore. It's all project 2025/federalist society. They're enacting trump's revenge which happens to have some overlap with their own goals. It will likely continue after trump unless the spell is broken and there's a general strike and military coup.

by thiht 9mo ago

shepherdjerred 9mo ago

> "Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene," DHS said. "The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement." https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-involved-shooting-reported-minneapolis https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-involved-shooting-r...

insane_dreamer 9mo ago
we can never trust a word coming out of DHS ever again
matsemann 9mo ago
Were the mag dumping into the lifeless body also "protective shots"? Holy crap they're lying straight to your faces with video evidence against them. How come they can do this without consequence?

nunez 9mo ago

Actually the folks at /r/conservative are more-or-less agreeing with the left-leaning majority opinion at the moment. https://archive.ph/nYEXh https://archive.ph/nYEXh

ceejayoz 9mo ago
That happens every time. A few hours later the talking points get decided on and it’s suddenly crickets. (Plus a few bans.)
- seattle_spring 9mo ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1qlzhb3/ice_kills_yet_another_protestor_a_study_in/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1qlzhb3/ice... The narrative has officially shifted to, "ICE subdued an armed supremest with gang ties."
  - Sabinus 9mo ago
    That is legitimately scary. That's narrative control tracked live. Any comment critical of 5 ice officers shooting one guy they gave disarmed and face down in the street were deleted by the mods. I can understand this for the last ICE shooting where it's possible the officer legitimately feared for his life. Not so for this shooting. I'm divided on if the r/Conservative mods are deliberate foreign agitprop actors, Trump admin employees, or MAGA true believers.
int_19h 9mo ago
Meanwhile on AR15.com most comments are along the lines of, "good, they should be shooting more commies".
xdennis 9mo ago
[flagged]
- matsemann 9mo ago
  Is there something inherent in conservativism that you have to be a bigot to be one? I didn't know. Your comment is a bit "no true Scotsman vibes".
  - stackbutterflow 9mo ago
    However conservatives define conservatism in their mind it always ends up for a vote for the bigots in the ballot.
latexr 9mo ago
> more-or-less After reading the thread, pretty sure it’s “less”. The most common and fervent “disagreement” in that thread is “this should be investigated”. People who believe there’s any chance of that happening (without a regime change), have to be so embarrassingly naive that they could be tortured themselves and would still defend the torturers.

komali2 9mo ago

That it's a cult needs to be better recognized by the mainstream in the USA. This podcast gave me more insight than I wanted into the Trump cult being well and truly a cult: https://open.spotify.com/show/3hkMl04iMcdayIhxFbL9WT https://open.spotify.com/show/3hkMl04iMcdayIhxFbL9WT It's two libbed up people talking with their fully steeped Trumpian parents, trying and failing to find common ground. Horrifyingly the parents recently said they would support Trump even if he ordered federal agents to kill everyone indiscriminately in a random mall in LA, and their adult kids were murdered as a result.

selimthegrim 9mo ago
In 2016 I watched not only tax-exempt churches on the airwaves in MS campaigning for Trump but Trump appearing in an ad saying “I’ll make every dream you ever dreamed come true.” It was so blatant I actually filled out the complaint form to the IRS or FEC (I can’t remember which) all the way but didn’t send it.
Hikikomori 9mo ago
This isn't really trump anymore. It's all project 2025/federalist society. They're enacting trump's revenge which happens to have some overlap with their own goals. It will likely continue after trump unless the spell is broken and there's a general strike and military coup.