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ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools
- Noaidi 9mo agoSo just curious when all your tech people are going to stage a worker strike against this fascist bullshit? What do you just wanna get a gold bar like Tim Cook did?
- deadbabe 9mo agoThese tools will just be used to gather evidence for character assasination to justify future killings.
- eoskx 9mo agoYep, I could totally see that at this point.
- steve-atx-7600 9mo agoI don’t think so. I think the administration will just keep declaring that X is a terrorist that obviously brandished weapons/threated ICE and it will be parroted by Fox News. Done. And who will stop them? No one. Republican office holders’ reelection is more important.
- pjc50 9mo agoYes, and: the propaganda machine will benefit from being able to automatically dig up the most "lib"-coded posts to use in their assertions that they were right to kill that person. I wonder if this will stay up on hn; the site is very against mass surveillance but anything involving ICE gets flag killed.
- Refreeze5224 9mo agoMaybe this will finally wake up all the people working for, building, and and enabling ad-tech and surveillance capitalism. Probably not, but we can hope. You're not just an "engineer" for Facebook or Google at this point. You are enabling fascism.
- pastage 9mo agoFascism is a slippery slope, maybe a political maelstorm everyone can be made to love it. The "first they came" poem is also a reminder that this are easier to see in hindsight. I think the strange turn the US took on human rights after 9/11, the media started to not only paint other groups as bad guys that you should overcome with force. The idea that any means necessary was allowed for a small win by torture, hacking or control. This idea that your power can be used against anyone just with a small connection to one bad person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
- collinmcnulty 9mo agoAs a child, evil was giant walking nuclear robots and monologuing villains and the temptation of otherworldly power, but as an adult, this is evil’s most common form. Come sell out democracy and humanity for a few bucks.
- colechristensen 9mo agoTurns out evil is childhood neglect on a below average person with enormous unearned resources. An ego easy to mold unleashed on us by people who wanted to push him to ruin us. And his followers near and far egging him on. A lightning rod for fear, stupidity, and a urge to fix a sense of inadequacy.
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- dawnerd 9mo agoIt must be nice to live in such a delusional bubble that you’re so clueless to what’s going on.
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- lifetimerubyist 9mo agoWhat about 6 federal “agents” beating up and summarily executing someone who is just protesting them on a public street? Is that fascism?
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- nickthegreek 9mo agoIt happened today. Literally go to ANY news site.
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- duxup 9mo agoWe would not be talking about this if that’s all there is to talk about.
- wnevets 9mo ago> I can’t afford healthcare or electricity, and ICE just abducted my neighbor. But at least I no longer have to see plaques that mention slavery when I visit national landmarks.
- lifetimerubyist 9mo agoJustice for Alex Pretti. Wake the fuck up America.
- hntechbropseud 9mo agoSecond day in a row seeing a post like, it will be censored in 3 2 1 ... Can’t allow anything to get in the way of those yc startups seeking ICE contracts. The tech-bro elite need to make their $$$ assisting in hunting down modern day Anne Franks.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoWell it’s weird because there are a 195 counties on the planet and they’re all, to one degree or another, negatively effected by illegal immigration because all countries require legal citizenship.
- OKRainbowKid 9mo agoOkay? What point are you trying to make?
- slowhadoken 9mo agoI’m not making a point, a made an observation.
- throwawayqqq11 9mo agoNo, you didnt. You basically said illigal immigration is bad because its illegal. You didnt include positive effects, like economic contribution. That positive conclusion about immigration is scientific consensus btw. Its easy to find if you dare to observe it.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoI’m liberal so I believe in governmental regulation which includes legal immigration and labor rights. I believe illegal immigrants shouldn’t be exploited by private businesses and citizens should be paid a living wage.
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- october8140 9mo agoI would encourage anyone working for companies that aid ICE to stop work and do everything you can as an employee. There is a real opportunity to do something. “I only worked for the company that provided cloud services” will be the new “I was just following orders.” Is there a complete list? Palantir, Amazon, Salesforce, Microsoft.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoCorrect me if I’m wrong but aren’t there 195 countries on the planet that all have legal and illegal immigrants? Also please keep in mind I’m a life long liberal that voted for Ralph Nader and Bernie Sanders.
- defrost 9mo agoNot so many with the masked unidentified death squads though, at least not in the G20.
- slowhadoken 9mo agoPeople want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?
- fitblipper 9mo agoThat is far down the list of reasons someone might want to know who is performing actions against them with the backing of the federal government. Much higher on the list would be accountability if they do something wrong or to reference them in any follow up legal or administrative interactions they might have in the giant immigration system. How many judges hide their identity?
- slowhadoken 9mo agoDoxxing is the first and most obvious reason. Federal agents aren’t directly subject to the public, their respective agencies and the President hold them accountable.
- defrost 9mo agoThe current POTUS is on record stating point blank he will not hold ICE and DHS agents accountable. Currently theer is no effective Federal investigation into the earlier murder by ICE in MN, the DOJ, FBI, etc. have been directed to look to the motivations of the victim rather than the illegal traffic stop and boxing in by agents.
- eoskx 9mo agoThis has now been flagged twice today when it has a legitimate tech/privacy angle. Unbelievable.
- lc9er 9mo agoI am regularly reminded that this site is filled not just with tech enthusiasts, but bootlickers that would do the dirty work of Zuck, Musk, and the current administration, all for a pat on the head and a few crumbs off the fascist plate.
- mellosouls 9mo agoTbf it happens both ways (both are regrettable). If somebody posts a link that crosses political ground and might also be interpreted as favourable to Musk or similar, its a likely candidate for flagging by the leftists on here.
- prophesi 9mo agoLet the flagging process be automated on what should be removed and wipe your hands of any wrong doing. I do understand that anything ICE-related at this current time will inevitably lead to heated political discussions that run counter to the HN ethos but it is unfortunate. It seems we can continue upvoting older EFF/Wired posts on ICE tech to keep the situation on the front page, though. Also seems increasingly bipartisan in the US that Alex Pretti's execution was not justified.
- riffic 9mo agoresist this.
- nodra 9mo agoNot surprised this got flagged but this is an important time to start putting this stuff out here. Thanks eoskx for trying.