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Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.

by HPMOR 8mo ago

lovich 8mo ago
The censorship is cranked up on every site now, presumably due to fear of retaliation from this admin. They are hyper online, and threaten any companies business deals if they feel slighted. Its why you can get banned on reddit now for quoting the president.
- joquarky 8mo ago
  Yep, I got a three day ban from Reddit for directly quoting JFK (and nothing else) in my comment. I even attributed it.
- lysace 8mo ago
  [flagged]
- Guid_NewGuid 8mo ago
  This site has always been easy to co-opt to fascism with their supposedly apolitical outlook. Flagging from unknown accounts easily kills stories of importance, even where they have relation to the supposed interests of the site. Such as the AI altered image being posted by the White House this week. The idea we have to treat arguments in good faith like the other user in this story excusing fascist death squads show how well this moderation approach aligns with the Thiel-ite sympathies.
  - UncleMeat 8mo ago
    Curtis Yarvin spent a lot of time posting here, after all.
belter 8mo ago
Some naive people here, still think the HN page listing is based on points and comments...
- belter 8mo ago
  You are downvoting what is the evidence in front of your eyes. Downvoting the observation does not change the ranking anomaly. If you want trust, you can’t run the front page like this.
  - therobots927 8mo ago
    You’re being downvoted by bots. HN is rigged and completely compromised. We all need start flagging any non-political content and refuse to discuss anything but ICE. Business cannot continue as normal.
youngtaff 8mo ago
Because many HN readers flag anything that they deem to be “politics”
- chipsrafferty 8mo ago
  Unless it has computer!
  - datsci_est_2015 8mo ago
    Sometimes even with computer! Don’t want to get uncomfy that the code you’re writing is enabling terrible things.
- FpUser 8mo ago
  I would say "wrong politics". Atrocities committed by other regimes have no problems staying on top page.
  - direwolf20 8mo ago
    Unless that regime is Israel.
- comfysocks 8mo ago
  In the eyes of some in leadership, tech workers should be apolitical worker drones. Weighing in on politics is for people like David Sacks, Marc Andreesen, Elon Musk.
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IncreasePosts 8mo ago
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- hdgvhicv 8mo ago
  Not to mention the biggest supporters of this are the SV techbros
- nikkwong 8mo ago
  I understand why HN doesn't want to devolve into a political forum—but at it's spirit, HN is supposed to cover topics that "...are of interest to those working in the tech community". The upvotes on a thread like this demonstrates that these are topics that are indeed of interest—so I wish that there was more of an appetite to allow these discussions to play out. Maybe having a limit on the number of posts per day or per week that could make it to the frontpage could give everyone a bit more of what they want. Personally, the political threads on HN are the ones in which I learn the most by and large. There simply isn't another community on the web that elicits such thought provoking discussion around these types of issues—reddit doesn't even come close. I hope the policy will change in the future; especially during these tumultuous times, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
- UncleMeat 8mo ago
  "The Queen of England Dies" and "Donald Trump elected president" both happily sat at #1.
  - comfysocks 8mo ago
    This article is #1 on news.ycombinator.com/active right now. Obviously top of mind for a lot of us right now. Pretty hard to find it without the /active, though.
    - UncleMeat 8mo ago
      Right. But the whole point is that it isn't on the front page and vastly fewer people know about /active, since it isn't even in the navbar.
chipsrafferty 8mo ago
[flagged]
magicalhippo 8mo ago
As I understand it, HN has a controversial submission detection system of sorts. The exact details elude me, but if a submission gets a lot of comments quickly relative to upvotes, it'll fall off the main page. Best indicator I've seen is if comments/points ~> 0.9 or so. It's my understanding mods can undo this "controversial" flag, so that select threads get back onto the main page.
bromuro 8mo ago
It is at the top of best stories here.

Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.

by HPMOR 8mo ago

Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.

lovich 8mo ago

The censorship is cranked up on every site now, presumably due to fear of retaliation from this admin. They are hyper online, and threaten any companies business deals if they feel slighted. Its why you can get banned on reddit now for quoting the president.

joquarky 8mo ago
Yep, I got a three day ban from Reddit for directly quoting JFK (and nothing else) in my comment. I even attributed it.
lysace 8mo ago
[flagged]
Guid_NewGuid 8mo ago
This site has always been easy to co-opt to fascism with their supposedly apolitical outlook. Flagging from unknown accounts easily kills stories of importance, even where they have relation to the supposed interests of the site. Such as the AI altered image being posted by the White House this week. The idea we have to treat arguments in good faith like the other user in this story excusing fascist death squads show how well this moderation approach aligns with the Thiel-ite sympathies.
- UncleMeat 8mo ago
  Curtis Yarvin spent a lot of time posting here, after all.

belter 8mo ago

Some naive people here, still think the HN page listing is based on points and comments...

belter 8mo ago
You are downvoting what is the evidence in front of your eyes. Downvoting the observation does not change the ranking anomaly. If you want trust, you can’t run the front page like this.
- therobots927 8mo ago
  You’re being downvoted by bots. HN is rigged and completely compromised. We all need start flagging any non-political content and refuse to discuss anything but ICE. Business cannot continue as normal.

youngtaff 8mo ago

Because many HN readers flag anything that they deem to be “politics”

chipsrafferty 8mo ago
Unless it has computer!
- datsci_est_2015 8mo ago
  Sometimes even with computer! Don’t want to get uncomfy that the code you’re writing is enabling terrible things.
FpUser 8mo ago
I would say "wrong politics". Atrocities committed by other regimes have no problems staying on top page.
- direwolf20 8mo ago
  Unless that regime is Israel.
comfysocks 8mo ago
In the eyes of some in leadership, tech workers should be apolitical worker drones. Weighing in on politics is for people like David Sacks, Marc Andreesen, Elon Musk.

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IncreasePosts 8mo ago

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hdgvhicv 8mo ago
Not to mention the biggest supporters of this are the SV techbros
nikkwong 8mo ago
I understand why HN doesn't want to devolve into a political forum—but at it's spirit, HN is supposed to cover topics that "...are of interest to those working in the tech community". The upvotes on a thread like this demonstrates that these are topics that are indeed of interest—so I wish that there was more of an appetite to allow these discussions to play out. Maybe having a limit on the number of posts per day or per week that could make it to the frontpage could give everyone a bit more of what they want. Personally, the political threads on HN are the ones in which I learn the most by and large. There simply isn't another community on the web that elicits such thought provoking discussion around these types of issues—reddit doesn't even come close. I hope the policy will change in the future; especially during these tumultuous times, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
UncleMeat 8mo ago
"The Queen of England Dies" and "Donald Trump elected president" both happily sat at #1.
- comfysocks 8mo ago
  This article is #1 on news.ycombinator.com/active right now. Obviously top of mind for a lot of us right now. Pretty hard to find it without the /active, though.
  - UncleMeat 8mo ago
    Right. But the whole point is that it isn't on the front page and vastly fewer people know about /active, since it isn't even in the navbar.

chipsrafferty 8mo ago

[flagged]

magicalhippo 8mo ago

As I understand it, HN has a controversial submission detection system of sorts. The exact details elude me, but if a submission gets a lot of comments quickly relative to upvotes, it'll fall off the main page. Best indicator I've seen is if comments/points ~> 0.9 or so. It's my understanding mods can undo this "controversial" flag, so that select threads get back onto the main page.

bromuro 8mo ago

It is at the top of best stories here.