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> Because that's what this site is for, for the same reason you don't take a bullhorn into a grocery store to talk about "the future of democracy". If there ar

> Because that's what this site is for, for the same reason you don't take a bullhorn into a grocery store to talk about "the future of democracy". If there are armed thugs headed for a grocery store's neighbourhood, a bullhorn might be appropriate.

andsoitis 9mo ago
Talking about it here has ZERO effect on the ground in Minnesota.
- Capricorn2481 9mo ago
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  - andsoitis 9mo ago
    I would urge perspective. Seeing an individual brutally killed for no reason is heartbreaking and wrong. Even scary. Any reasonable person would agree. Is this something to worry about that there is a coming tsunami of random thousands or 10s of thousands of people getting mowed down by federal agents? No, would be my answer. There’s no evidence of that risk. Believing it is unrealistic. On the other hand, things that don’t make the news headlines but are more concerning in my opinion are things like unlawful killing by law enforcement. Did you know that every year in America there’s an estimated 1200 - 1400 people unlawfully killed by policies officers? In 2024 alone (an Biden year), about 1365 people were killed unlawfully by police. Which, by the way, was a record. Thats tragic and terrible. There are these systemic problem that need to be addressed. A couple of people being killed by ICE, however brutal, obscures other structural problems of government brutality that transcends Trump 2.0. Do you know how may people died in ICE custody during Biden? 23. In 2025, about 20-25, a 20 year record. So yes, more but if you believe the Biden ICE was kind and empathetic and nice to people, you are ill informed. Be outraged, fine. But being reductionist doesn’t solve the underlying problems.
    - Capricorn2481 9mo ago
      This really has nothing to do with my comment. I agree with pretty much everything you said, what gave you the impression I wouldn't? This is Minneapolis we are talking about, are you under the impression police brutality is an obscure issue there? I didn't even mention Trump or Biden in my comments
  - SilverElfin 9mo ago
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- watwut 9mo ago
  The only thing that will help Minnesota is political pressure from people in other states. The only thing that will help them is democratic politicians to stop enabling and republicans to stop actively supporting it. And in the long term, maybe America needs to admit to itself that its constitution and judicial system is complete failure in terms of defending people from tyranny.

andsoitis 9mo ago

Talking about it here has ZERO effect on the ground in Minnesota.

Capricorn2481 9mo ago
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- andsoitis 9mo ago
  I would urge perspective. Seeing an individual brutally killed for no reason is heartbreaking and wrong. Even scary. Any reasonable person would agree. Is this something to worry about that there is a coming tsunami of random thousands or 10s of thousands of people getting mowed down by federal agents? No, would be my answer. There’s no evidence of that risk. Believing it is unrealistic. On the other hand, things that don’t make the news headlines but are more concerning in my opinion are things like unlawful killing by law enforcement. Did you know that every year in America there’s an estimated 1200 - 1400 people unlawfully killed by policies officers? In 2024 alone (an Biden year), about 1365 people were killed unlawfully by police. Which, by the way, was a record. Thats tragic and terrible. There are these systemic problem that need to be addressed. A couple of people being killed by ICE, however brutal, obscures other structural problems of government brutality that transcends Trump 2.0. Do you know how may people died in ICE custody during Biden? 23. In 2025, about 20-25, a 20 year record. So yes, more but if you believe the Biden ICE was kind and empathetic and nice to people, you are ill informed. Be outraged, fine. But being reductionist doesn’t solve the underlying problems.
  - Capricorn2481 9mo ago
    This really has nothing to do with my comment. I agree with pretty much everything you said, what gave you the impression I wouldn't? This is Minneapolis we are talking about, are you under the impression police brutality is an obscure issue there? I didn't even mention Trump or Biden in my comments
- SilverElfin 9mo ago
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watwut 9mo ago
The only thing that will help Minnesota is political pressure from people in other states. The only thing that will help them is democratic politicians to stop enabling and republicans to stop actively supporting it. And in the long term, maybe America needs to admit to itself that its constitution and judicial system is complete failure in terms of defending people from tyranny.