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Consider that there is a large contingent of hackers on this forum who actually care about this stuff (the future of democracy), and are desperately upvoting it

Consider that there is a large contingent of hackers on this forum who actually care about this stuff (the future of democracy), and are desperately upvoting it for visibility despite it continuously being flagged off by people who'd rather be talking about the latest in B2B AI or something..

tokyobreakfast 9mo ago
[flagged]
- akersten 9mo ago
  Like it or not, this whole VC funded ivory tower where you can insulate yourself from the reality of what's happening outside depends on the civil stability of this country. You can choose to ignore it at your own peril.
  - tokyobreakfast 9mo ago
    Then go build your own HN where you can have political flamewars 24/7. If the issue is as dire as you claim, you should have no problem with users flocking there.
    - DivingForGold 9mo ago
      I stand with Tokyobreakfast, let them take this to reddit, where it belongs.
      - timeon 9mo ago
        Impressive. Few months old accounts are telling what can be posted.
- Marsymars 9mo ago
  > Because that's what this site is for, for the same reason you don't take a bullhorn into a grocery store to talk about "the future of democracy". If there are armed thugs headed for a grocery store's neighbourhood, a bullhorn might be appropriate.
  - andsoitis 9mo ago
    Talking about it here has ZERO effect on the ground in Minnesota.
    - Capricorn2481 9mo ago
      [flagged]
      - andsoitis 9mo ago
        I would urge perspective. Seeing an individual brutally killed for no reason is heartbreaking and wrong. Even scary. Any reasonable person would agree. Is this something to worry about that there is a coming tsunami of random thousands or 10s of thousands of people getting mowed down by federal agents? No, would be my answer. There’s no evidence of that risk. Believing it is unrealistic. On the other hand, things that don’t make the news headlines but are more concerning in my opinion are things like unlawful killing by law enforcement. Did you know that every year in America there’s an estimated 1200 - 1400 people unlawfully killed by policies officers? In 2024 alone (an Biden year), about 1365 people were killed unlawfully by police. Which, by the way, was a record. Thats tragic and terrible. There are these systemic problem that need to be addressed. A couple of people being killed by ICE, however brutal, obscures other structural problems of government brutality that transcends Trump 2.0. Do you know how may people died in ICE custody during Biden? 23. In 2025, about 20-25, a 20 year record. So yes, more but if you believe the Biden ICE was kind and empathetic and nice to people, you are ill informed. Be outraged, fine. But being reductionist doesn’t solve the underlying problems.
        Capricorn2481 9mo ago
- mariusor 9mo ago
  I think empathy should be given when a nation of people have to suffer through these events multiple times a week. Shutting down every thread about heinous acts in the name of "it's not interesting to me" is a very inhuman act in itself, and we the citizens of the rest of the world, should perhaps sit back and bear witness while the people of the US voice their disagreement in every square and on every corner while they still can.
ndjeosibfb 9mo ago
“the future of democracy” lmao the american people literally voted for this, seems like democracy is only good if your side is in power
- willmarch 9mo ago
  You can’t vote to allow federal agents to violate the Constitution or natural rights, so let’s please stop with this type of sophistry
watwut 9mo ago
It is flagged by people who support the administration. There used to be a stream of homeschool propaganda and stream of "liberals are a danger for freedom" articles that no one flagged. Very consistently, the worst it makes the republican administration look, the more likely it is to be flagged.

tokyobreakfast 9mo ago

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akersten 9mo ago
Like it or not, this whole VC funded ivory tower where you can insulate yourself from the reality of what's happening outside depends on the civil stability of this country. You can choose to ignore it at your own peril.
- tokyobreakfast 9mo ago
  Then go build your own HN where you can have political flamewars 24/7. If the issue is as dire as you claim, you should have no problem with users flocking there.
  - DivingForGold 9mo ago
    I stand with Tokyobreakfast, let them take this to reddit, where it belongs.
    - timeon 9mo ago
      Impressive. Few months old accounts are telling what can be posted.
Marsymars 9mo ago
> Because that's what this site is for, for the same reason you don't take a bullhorn into a grocery store to talk about "the future of democracy". If there are armed thugs headed for a grocery store's neighbourhood, a bullhorn might be appropriate.
- andsoitis 9mo ago
  Talking about it here has ZERO effect on the ground in Minnesota.
  - Capricorn2481 9mo ago
    [flagged]
    - andsoitis 9mo ago
      I would urge perspective. Seeing an individual brutally killed for no reason is heartbreaking and wrong. Even scary. Any reasonable person would agree. Is this something to worry about that there is a coming tsunami of random thousands or 10s of thousands of people getting mowed down by federal agents? No, would be my answer. There’s no evidence of that risk. Believing it is unrealistic. On the other hand, things that don’t make the news headlines but are more concerning in my opinion are things like unlawful killing by law enforcement. Did you know that every year in America there’s an estimated 1200 - 1400 people unlawfully killed by policies officers? In 2024 alone (an Biden year), about 1365 people were killed unlawfully by police. Which, by the way, was a record. Thats tragic and terrible. There are these systemic problem that need to be addressed. A couple of people being killed by ICE, however brutal, obscures other structural problems of government brutality that transcends Trump 2.0. Do you know how may people died in ICE custody during Biden? 23. In 2025, about 20-25, a 20 year record. So yes, more but if you believe the Biden ICE was kind and empathetic and nice to people, you are ill informed. Be outraged, fine. But being reductionist doesn’t solve the underlying problems.
      - Capricorn2481 9mo ago
mariusor 9mo ago
I think empathy should be given when a nation of people have to suffer through these events multiple times a week. Shutting down every thread about heinous acts in the name of "it's not interesting to me" is a very inhuman act in itself, and we the citizens of the rest of the world, should perhaps sit back and bear witness while the people of the US voice their disagreement in every square and on every corner while they still can.

ndjeosibfb 9mo ago

“the future of democracy” lmao the american people literally voted for this, seems like democracy is only good if your side is in power

willmarch 9mo ago
You can’t vote to allow federal agents to violate the Constitution or natural rights, so let’s please stop with this type of sophistry

watwut 9mo ago

It is flagged by people who support the administration. There used to be a stream of homeschool propaganda and stream of "liberals are a danger for freedom" articles that no one flagged. Very consistently, the worst it makes the republican administration look, the more likely it is to be flagged.