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FYI if I get hit by someone and I find out they are using comma, everyone’s is getting a lawsuit. Is there a hard safety check for an insane steering angle? Fu

FYI if I get hit by someone and I find out they are using comma, everyone’s is getting a lawsuit. Is there a hard safety check for an insane steering angle? Full brake or throttle? ECC error? What happens!? That’s what a safety standard checks and certifies for. Incredibly dangerous, irresponsible, and illegal to be using this around other people. At least Tesla vaguely pretends to work with regulators. The cute download your own firmware so they aren’t shipping an illegal device? Encouraging hands off, inattentive driving? Let’s see how civil court sees that.

geaibleu 9mo ago
You aren't going to like answer but yes, there are firmware safety checks + CAN checksums. And driver facing camera tracking your attention so you aren't asleep behind the wheel. Something that your Tesla apparently failed to consider https://driving.ca/auto-news/crashes/sleeping-tesla-driver-reportedly-pulled-over-by-german-police https://driving.ca/auto-news/crashes/sleeping-tesla-driver-r... Your attitude reminds me of how Microsoft fans talked down Linux and GNU; blah blah open source can never be as good/secure/stable as our billion-dollar commercial product because money/certificate
- buildbot 9mo ago
  Okay, is every change validated by a safety agency? No. I asked a lawyer this question and the answer was “on every level yes you could sue them”. Edit - Further back and forth and depending on the circumstances, comma could be criminally liable. I don’t have a tesla or a car.
  - geaibleu 9mo ago
    You have an auto industry lawyer on retainer to ask hypotheticals on Sunday evening? First answer your own question (and ask lawyer while you at it), is every changed pushed by Tesla reviewed by EU/CA/US regulators? And then explain to me how your Tesla still allowed driver to fall asleep. FYI that was not a singular accident.
    - buildbot 9mo ago
      Yes I texted a lawyer. Again, I do not have a Tesla. I have never had a Tesla. I do not plan to own one. Here’s a 240M dollar judgment against tesla- https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2025/08/04/jury-orders-tesla-to-pay-more-than-240-million-in-autopilot-crash-case-00489305 https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2025/08/04... You think that’ll go better if you hit and maim me with your comma controlled car?
      - geaibleu 9mo ago
        Your argument went from "cute GitHub project has no safety" to "I get money if tesla maims me". I must ask you again, if Tesla, an example of your choosing, works with regulators and has every change certified and reviewed then how did they fail basic safety check?

geaibleu 9mo ago

You aren't going to like answer but yes, there are firmware safety checks + CAN checksums. And driver facing camera tracking your attention so you aren't asleep behind the wheel. Something that your Tesla apparently failed to consider https://driving.ca/auto-news/crashes/sleeping-tesla-driver-reportedly-pulled-over-by-german-police https://driving.ca/auto-news/crashes/sleeping-tesla-driver-r... Your attitude reminds me of how Microsoft fans talked down Linux and GNU; blah blah open source can never be as good/secure/stable as our billion-dollar commercial product because money/certificate

buildbot 9mo ago
Okay, is every change validated by a safety agency? No. I asked a lawyer this question and the answer was “on every level yes you could sue them”. Edit - Further back and forth and depending on the circumstances, comma could be criminally liable. I don’t have a tesla or a car.
- geaibleu 9mo ago
  You have an auto industry lawyer on retainer to ask hypotheticals on Sunday evening? First answer your own question (and ask lawyer while you at it), is every changed pushed by Tesla reviewed by EU/CA/US regulators? And then explain to me how your Tesla still allowed driver to fall asleep. FYI that was not a singular accident.
  - buildbot 9mo ago
    Yes I texted a lawyer. Again, I do not have a Tesla. I have never had a Tesla. I do not plan to own one. Here’s a 240M dollar judgment against tesla- https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2025/08/04/jury-orders-tesla-to-pay-more-than-240-million-in-autopilot-crash-case-00489305 https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2025/08/04... You think that’ll go better if you hit and maim me with your comma controlled car?
    - geaibleu 9mo ago
      Your argument went from "cute GitHub project has no safety" to "I get money if tesla maims me". I must ask you again, if Tesla, an example of your choosing, works with regulators and has every change certified and reviewed then how did they fail basic safety check?