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So much hate for Microsoft. I'm at awe. Like one commenter on the article's page said, If Apple would do that kind of launch experiment, everybody would praise
by cbaleanu 14y ago
So much hate for Microsoft. I'm at awe. Like one commenter on the article's page said, If Apple would do that kind of launch experiment, everybody would praise them for how revolutionay they are.
Microsoft has a real chance of claiming a big chunk of the market, not from Apple, but from the messy Android ecosystem, with a clear brand and a simple product lineup.
- lawdawg 14y agoPeople said the same exactly thing w.r.t Android when Windows Phone 7 was released. I think history speaks for itself.
- cbaleanu 14y agoThe WP7 was a flop indeed. They launched it almost without any backup. With the W8 product line however, they rebranded everything, creating an unitary brand image, much like Apple did a while ago. And that's why I did the Android statement. They provide to all the predominantly tech savvy users of Android an unified experience that is not Cupertino flavored.
- css771 14y agoThe tech savvy Android users? They would be the last people to switch to WP. That thing does not have a viable way to run unsigned applications. No proper multitasking, no proper notifications. What exactly about WP is supposed to attract tech savvy users?
- meaty 14y agoTech savvy user WP user here. I just bought a lumia 800 for very little cash over a galaxy s2. Why? It's actually less clunky than stock android or touchwiz. I haven't found a use for multitasking on the phone yet. Notifications are fine - I have no idea what you are talking about. The lumia is actually to be as blunt as possible, fucking marvellous. I doubt you've used one.
- drivebyacct2 14y agoHow is it "less clunky" than stock Android?
- meaty 14y agoIts more consistent, responds instantly to everything, 100% intuitive, never requires reference to a manual, silky smooth and everything was blatantly obvious, configuration was beyond easy for everything and everything works flawlessly straight away. I spent 2 days with a loaned galaxy s2 first and it had none of the above. It was slow, clunky and inconsistent and pretty damn hard to get it to sync with my pc. It also lost outgoing emails when plugged into exchange. The three other people I've shown it to (android users) remarked at how it is quite better than the diatribe against it and they found it intuitive.
- mtgx 14y agoDoes it really respond instantly to everything, or does it just start a 3 second animation after you press on something? Big difference. Because the animation is used to hide how slow it is in the background to process the stuff.
- meaty 14y agoWay under a second for anything. The transitions (not animations as you put) are there to show where something has moved to as well as hide some latency. Check the metro guidelines that Microsoft published around using transitions.
- drivebyacct2 14y agoThis is the great irony of Android. Not only do many iOS users never use it (and thus when they think Android, they think Froyo or even Gingerbread). That, and they're so used to their iPhone that is the standard. Even when I can do things just as intuitively or easily.
- css771 14y ago
- cbaleanu 14y agoI would be delighted if you were to describe the proper multi-tasking in Android. I thought we had something called activities.
- drivebyacct2 14y agoI assume (s)he's referring to Services.
- css771 14y agoWhat I meant by that is that, in WP, if I leave an app running, and then come back to the home screen and tap on that app's tile, it will start a new instance; not resume the old one. Also, WP closes apps way too early in the background.
- Joeri 14y agoI bought a galaxy s2 for all of those tech-savvy reasons, to find out that one year later I don't actually use any unsigned apps and don't want to run down my battery with multitasking. My wife got a lumia 710, and in many ways it's a better phone than my s2, the quality of the software is noticeably better (even of the 3rd party apps). My next phone is probably going to be a lumia.
- vetinari 14y agoI think that you are missing the factors why tech savvy users of Android use Android and not iPhone. It is not the vendor of the tech, it is what you can do with it. With WP8, Microsoft copied from Apple exactly those things, that Android users do not want.
- rsl7 14y agoIt's not hate, it's a big sigh. Like -- jeeeeeeez. Some cool stuff bubbles up in Redmond once in a while, and it gets squashed, hobbled, cancelled, thwarted, squeezed, hidden.