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240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equip

by Y-bar 9mo ago

240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The very first cassette Walkman was about 40 grams light: https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1979-sony-s-iconic-walkman-born https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1979-sony-s... The Rio MP3 player was 109 grams: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/diamond-rio-pmp300-mp3-player-today/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/diamond-rio-pmp300-m... The classic Creative Nomad weighs in at 45g including battery: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HglCxgxN2we/p_053NX128/Creative-NOMAD-MuVo-NX-128MB.html https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HglCxgxN2we/p_053NX128/Creativ...

tass 9mo ago
Almost certainly a typo, the first Walkman was 390g or 14 ounces (not 1.4oz)
- Y-bar 9mo ago
  Yes, it seems you are correct. For example this one is 180g including batteries: https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-smallest-and.html https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-sma... Though I stand by my implied argument that older devices were not as heavy as we might remember them to be. And it is okay to consider 240g a bit too heavy in the context of a digital music player with no need for cassettes or mechanical parts.
- pmyteh 9mo ago
  I read the advert as claiming that the headphones for that Walkman are 1.4oz, which seems plausible (they're a very flimsy design).
Aurornis 9mo ago
> 240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The parent comment chose an unusually large DAP with a big screen to compare to. It’s not really a fair comparison. Also the weights of old devices are usually listed without batteries, which could increase the overall weight by 50% or more. I had a minidisc player a long time ago. It was a quality one, but it wasn’t the lightest or more robust thing to carry around.
- Y-bar 9mo ago
  You see that I used the weights including batteries for all but the minidisc player which is specced at 144g including those, right?

by Y-bar 9mo ago

tass 9mo ago

Almost certainly a typo, the first Walkman was 390g or 14 ounces (not 1.4oz)

Y-bar 9mo ago
Yes, it seems you are correct. For example this one is 180g including batteries: https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-smallest-and.html https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-sma... Though I stand by my implied argument that older devices were not as heavy as we might remember them to be. And it is okay to consider 240g a bit too heavy in the context of a digital music player with no need for cassettes or mechanical parts.
pmyteh 9mo ago
I read the advert as claiming that the headphones for that Walkman are 1.4oz, which seems plausible (they're a very flimsy design).

Aurornis 9mo ago

> 240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The parent comment chose an unusually large DAP with a big screen to compare to. It’s not really a fair comparison. Also the weights of old devices are usually listed without batteries, which could increase the overall weight by 50% or more. I had a minidisc player a long time ago. It was a quality one, but it wasn’t the lightest or more robust thing to carry around.

Y-bar 9mo ago
You see that I used the weights including batteries for all but the minidisc player which is specced at 144g including those, right?