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ok, so how representative are geohot and PH's son? I'm not seeing much of either over here, but maybe it's just a case of "try that in a small country?" [1] le
by aebtebeten 9mo ago
ok, so how representative are geohot and PH's son? I'm not seeing much of either over here, but maybe it's just a case of "try that in a small country?"
[1] let's not forget "Joe Cool"; but then again maybe he doesn't shun formal education: https://i.pinimg.com/170x/31/59/7d/31597dc97c7c3591ef9e2ac144e50300.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/170x/31/59/7d/31597dc97c7c3591ef9e2ac14...
TW Körner on formal education: https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~twk10/Naked.pdf#page=11 https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~twk10/Naked.pdf#page=11
> ...since good students mainly educate themselves outside the lecture room, you need not worry that you will influence them too much. Eventually they will outgrow you. The clever ones will make this clear to you but the very clever ones will listen to you as respectfully as ever.
- gsf_emergency_6 9mo agoEdit: propaganda https://archive.ph/bZg92 https://archive.ph/bZg92 https://archive.ph/o/bZg92/https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/gen-z-trades-jobs-plumbing-welding-a76b5e43 https://archive.ph/o/bZg92/https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/car... Sorry!! I should have been much more careful with this potentially incendiary stuff.. I'm not saying all gen-Z are hipsters that's dumb. But that the ("anti-elitist") middle middle class is where we might look for the new breed of "hipsters" to replace those Bernie Bros Where we are: intellectual polarization is nowhere as marked as in suburban America.. (Remember Tocqueville!!) >I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America >Among a multitude of men you will find a selfish, mercantile, and trading taste for the discoveries of the mind, which must not be confounded with that disinterested passion which is kindled in the heart of a few. I wouldn't listen to Koerner on this. He might have had a great time pre-college? Did he go to schools where each teacher taught every subject?? My examples above didn't even make it to college.. (Geohot tried long after he got famous, --on the prodding of kith+kin AIUI--, straight into gradschool(!!) but then dropped out again.. Poole had a similar path. I personally know dozens of technically brilliant boys who struggled K-12)
- aebtebeten 9mo agohttps://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/education/learning-from-switzerland-global-delegates-explore-apprenticeship-model/90208292 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/education/learning-from-switzer... ... maybe I should've qualified, as our idea of "formal" has many more tracks? (I also may be the wrong person to talk with about this, as I have both a 4-year degree and a trade, thanks to Aristippus' advice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristippus#:~:text=It%20is%20related,of%20a%20shipwreck%2e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristippus#:~:text=It%20is%20r... )
- gsf_emergency_6 9mo agoYes, I had a different idea of "formal" from the Swiss one (which actually approximates the vibe in my current locality better than the UK)