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> 240g brick pantsing you Sometimes I wish people from 1995 could read our threads and see the things we’re complaining about.

Y-bar 9mo ago
240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The very first cassette Walkman was about 40 grams light: https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1979-sony-s-iconic-walkman-born https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1979-sony-s... The Rio MP3 player was 109 grams: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/diamond-rio-pmp300-mp3-player-today/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/diamond-rio-pmp300-m... The classic Creative Nomad weighs in at 45g including battery: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HglCxgxN2we/p_053NX128/Creative-NOMAD-MuVo-NX-128MB.html https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HglCxgxN2we/p_053NX128/Creativ...
- tass 9mo ago
  Almost certainly a typo, the first Walkman was 390g or 14 ounces (not 1.4oz)
  - Y-bar 9mo ago
    Yes, it seems you are correct. For example this one is 180g including batteries: https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-smallest-and.html https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-sma... Though I stand by my implied argument that older devices were not as heavy as we might remember them to be. And it is okay to consider 240g a bit too heavy in the context of a digital music player with no need for cassettes or mechanical parts.
  - pmyteh 9mo ago
    I read the advert as claiming that the headphones for that Walkman are 1.4oz, which seems plausible (they're a very flimsy design).
- Aurornis 9mo ago
  > 240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The parent comment chose an unusually large DAP with a big screen to compare to. It’s not really a fair comparison. Also the weights of old devices are usually listed without batteries, which could increase the overall weight by 50% or more. I had a minidisc player a long time ago. It was a quality one, but it wasn’t the lightest or more robust thing to carry around.
  - Y-bar 9mo ago
    You see that I used the weights including batteries for all but the minidisc player which is specced at 144g including those, right?
raffraffraff 9mo ago
Well, I had something like this back in the late 90s (can't recall the year exactly) https://walkman.land/aiwa/hs-px297 https://walkman.land/aiwa/hs-px297 Battery: 1AA gets 30h Dimensions: 111.4 x 29.1 x 80.7 mm Weight: 132g Ok, so you were limited to 90 minute tapes with slow seek. But aside from that compare it to the specs I posted for the android vs non-android mp3 players. Remember, this cassette player has some seriously impressive clockwork inside that case and it's still smaller and much lighter than the android. Also remember you can just buy another AA battery, and keep a few spares in your bag.
- BobaFloutist 9mo ago
  Ok, and each AA battery you keep in your bag adds another 23 grams, so "a few" (let's say 3) and you're already right back up to 192 grams
  - raffraffraff 9mo ago
    If you're going running with your Walkman I think 30 hours on a single AA would be fine
raydev 9mo ago
We live in 2026 now, with expectations that are matched to the current year.

Y-bar 9mo ago

240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The very first cassette Walkman was about 40 grams light: https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1979-sony-s-iconic-walkman-born https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1979-sony-s... The Rio MP3 player was 109 grams: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/diamond-rio-pmp300-mp3-player-today/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/diamond-rio-pmp300-m... The classic Creative Nomad weighs in at 45g including battery: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HglCxgxN2we/p_053NX128/Creative-NOMAD-MuVo-NX-128MB.html https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HglCxgxN2we/p_053NX128/Creativ...

tass 9mo ago
Almost certainly a typo, the first Walkman was 390g or 14 ounces (not 1.4oz)
- Y-bar 9mo ago
  Yes, it seems you are correct. For example this one is 180g including batteries: https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-smallest-and.html https://www.1001hifi.info/2025/01/sony-wm-20-1983-worlds-sma... Though I stand by my implied argument that older devices were not as heavy as we might remember them to be. And it is okay to consider 240g a bit too heavy in the context of a digital music player with no need for cassettes or mechanical parts.
- pmyteh 9mo ago
  I read the advert as claiming that the headphones for that Walkman are 1.4oz, which seems plausible (they're a very flimsy design).
Aurornis 9mo ago
> 240 grams is twice as heavy as for example an average minidisc player (https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750 https://www.minidisc.wiki/equipment/sony/portable/mz-g750) which could often weigh less than 100g. The parent comment chose an unusually large DAP with a big screen to compare to. It’s not really a fair comparison. Also the weights of old devices are usually listed without batteries, which could increase the overall weight by 50% or more. I had a minidisc player a long time ago. It was a quality one, but it wasn’t the lightest or more robust thing to carry around.
- Y-bar 9mo ago
  You see that I used the weights including batteries for all but the minidisc player which is specced at 144g including those, right?

raffraffraff 9mo ago

Well, I had something like this back in the late 90s (can't recall the year exactly) https://walkman.land/aiwa/hs-px297 https://walkman.land/aiwa/hs-px297 Battery: 1AA gets 30h Dimensions: 111.4 x 29.1 x 80.7 mm Weight: 132g Ok, so you were limited to 90 minute tapes with slow seek. But aside from that compare it to the specs I posted for the android vs non-android mp3 players. Remember, this cassette player has some seriously impressive clockwork inside that case and it's still smaller and much lighter than the android. Also remember you can just buy another AA battery, and keep a few spares in your bag.

BobaFloutist 9mo ago
Ok, and each AA battery you keep in your bag adds another 23 grams, so "a few" (let's say 3) and you're already right back up to 192 grams
- raffraffraff 9mo ago
  If you're going running with your Walkman I think 30 hours on a single AA would be fine

raydev 9mo ago

We live in 2026 now, with expectations that are matched to the current year.