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If you have truly no conception of how to keep people "occupied" as your wording suggests, may I suggest studying even elementary school level humanities or phi

by taurath 9mo ago

If you have truly no conception of how to keep people "occupied" as your wording suggests, may I suggest studying even elementary school level humanities or philosophy. It used to be, and I think will be again one day, that sociopathic comments like "thinning the herd" would be considered deeply troubling. Its clear though that a vision of a brighter future is necessary if we are to achieve it.

whattheheckheck 9mo ago
Anyone who can't think of something to do is the first to cause trouble...
- taurath 9mo ago
  No, they’re the first to check in on their friends and family, see if they need help. Theyre the first to look for problems to solve.
JackSlateur 9mo ago
But I did and I still do Pascal in his book "les pensées" introduced the idea that we (the human race) keep ourselves busy to avoid the anguish of the inner void that lurks in everybody, to avoid realizing too much that, in the end, life is meaningless, that we are nothing in the great scheme of the universe. So we work, we play, we do things, any things and forget about ourselves. Charles Baudelaire, in his poem "Enivrez-vous", spoke about the soul-crushing experience of doing nothing, and that "being drunk on something, anything" was a requirement to living a good life (job, drugs, whatever): it is required to fight the terrible passage of time that burdens us. Being on vacation is meaningful and appreciated because it contrasts with the rest of our life. Would we enjoy a lifetime of vacation ? Yes at first, hardly then (also and this is lame but true, there is pleasure in getting things that not everybody can get) In another way and in essence, Malsow talk about the common need to solve problems. Which is seen by some people as the key to happiness: not avoid problems, but solve them. Because there are always new problems in life, and if life fails to give some to us, then we find some ourselves .. So what would we do ? Well, we could work on some very original ideas. Get more power that our neighbors. Get more things. Would that leads to conflicts and wars ? No, no of course not, that would be a first in history. Now, you gave basically no information. Please answer me: how do we keep 8 billions occupied ? Not for a day, not for a month, but for a lifetime.
- taurath 9mo ago
  Or you could just, yknow, face the truth of your existence instead of run from the void of your unimportantness. Find some people to get with that makes it easier. Easier said than done, but also a lot easier and more congruent with existence as a human than applying your capitalistic competitive mindset to a post scarcity world. We have so many systems of meaning that exist across the planet. You know about one of them. Find out about some of the others.
  - JackSlateur 9mo ago
    "may I suggest studying even elementary school level humanities or philosophy" "face the truth of your existence" "We have so many systems of meaning that exist across the planet" Your words are empty. I gave you several leads to actual people who gave actual thoughts with serious conclusions (that matches the world you can see). You gave nothing except meaningless words. What is the truth of our existence ? What systems (there are so many!) are you speaking about ? Why none of them are implemented right now, and why everybody still have the need to do things in their lives ? And the most important question: how do you keep 8 billions people occupied ?

by taurath 9mo ago

whattheheckheck 9mo ago

Anyone who can't think of something to do is the first to cause trouble...

taurath 9mo ago
No, they’re the first to check in on their friends and family, see if they need help. Theyre the first to look for problems to solve.

JackSlateur 9mo ago

But I did and I still do Pascal in his book "les pensées" introduced the idea that we (the human race) keep ourselves busy to avoid the anguish of the inner void that lurks in everybody, to avoid realizing too much that, in the end, life is meaningless, that we are nothing in the great scheme of the universe. So we work, we play, we do things, any things and forget about ourselves. Charles Baudelaire, in his poem "Enivrez-vous", spoke about the soul-crushing experience of doing nothing, and that "being drunk on something, anything" was a requirement to living a good life (job, drugs, whatever): it is required to fight the terrible passage of time that burdens us. Being on vacation is meaningful and appreciated because it contrasts with the rest of our life. Would we enjoy a lifetime of vacation ? Yes at first, hardly then (also and this is lame but true, there is pleasure in getting things that not everybody can get) In another way and in essence, Malsow talk about the common need to solve problems. Which is seen by some people as the key to happiness: not avoid problems, but solve them. Because there are always new problems in life, and if life fails to give some to us, then we find some ourselves .. So what would we do ? Well, we could work on some very original ideas. Get more power that our neighbors. Get more things. Would that leads to conflicts and wars ? No, no of course not, that would be a first in history. Now, you gave basically no information. Please answer me: how do we keep 8 billions occupied ? Not for a day, not for a month, but for a lifetime.

taurath 9mo ago
Or you could just, yknow, face the truth of your existence instead of run from the void of your unimportantness. Find some people to get with that makes it easier. Easier said than done, but also a lot easier and more congruent with existence as a human than applying your capitalistic competitive mindset to a post scarcity world. We have so many systems of meaning that exist across the planet. You know about one of them. Find out about some of the others.
- JackSlateur 9mo ago
  "may I suggest studying even elementary school level humanities or philosophy" "face the truth of your existence" "We have so many systems of meaning that exist across the planet" Your words are empty. I gave you several leads to actual people who gave actual thoughts with serious conclusions (that matches the world you can see). You gave nothing except meaningless words. What is the truth of our existence ? What systems (there are so many!) are you speaking about ? Why none of them are implemented right now, and why everybody still have the need to do things in their lives ? And the most important question: how do you keep 8 billions people occupied ?