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Do BYD and other Chinese EVs have this insane subscription scheme for basic features on their cars, or is that only a feature of North American/European manufac

Do BYD and other Chinese EVs have this insane subscription scheme for basic features on their cars, or is that only a feature of North American/European manufacturers?

TacoCommander 9mo ago
I am also curious about this, how does the average person in China feel about subscriptions?
- loloquwowndueo 9mo ago
  BYD is available in a lot of countries outside China.
SilverElfin 9mo ago
It looks to be completely free on most BYD models - as in no one time fee or subscription fee, but just part of the car: https://insideevs.com/news/750244/byd-smart-driving-cheap/ https://insideevs.com/news/750244/byd-smart-driving-cheap/
- apublicfrog 9mo ago
  Wow, I've never seen an article that misleading from the first line! > "Full Self-Driving" costs $8,000. BYD includes its version for free on a $9,300 car. These are unrelated things. Tesla's comparative offering (at the time this article was written) was also included for free.
  - roryirvine 9mo ago
    So, what you're saying is that Tesla used to be as good as a $9,300 BYD but is now going to be worse? No wonder they need to hide behind a tariff wall.
    - apublicfrog 9mo ago
      No, and it seems you're intentionally inferring something there. I am saying that the article is comparing two features that are different and alluding to them being the same to confuse the non-informed reader. I have no idea what a "tariff wall" is, but I don't believe Tesla or BYD pay a tariff in my country.
palata 9mo ago
Once BYD is the most popular car, they will complain that it's probably because of the Chinese government manipulating the people. But the truth is that I would happily buy a BYD car knowing that it's a good product, with no goddamn subscriptions.
Sparyjerry 9mo ago
This article is purely a lie. It still comes with Traffic-Aware Cruise Control with Autosteer free (renamed autopilot).

Do BYD and other Chinese EVs have this insane subscription scheme for basic features on their cars, or is that only a feature of North American/European manufacturers?

TacoCommander 9mo ago

I am also curious about this, how does the average person in China feel about subscriptions?

loloquwowndueo 9mo ago
BYD is available in a lot of countries outside China.

SilverElfin 9mo ago

It looks to be completely free on most BYD models - as in no one time fee or subscription fee, but just part of the car: https://insideevs.com/news/750244/byd-smart-driving-cheap/ https://insideevs.com/news/750244/byd-smart-driving-cheap/

apublicfrog 9mo ago
Wow, I've never seen an article that misleading from the first line! > "Full Self-Driving" costs $8,000. BYD includes its version for free on a $9,300 car. These are unrelated things. Tesla's comparative offering (at the time this article was written) was also included for free.
- roryirvine 9mo ago
  So, what you're saying is that Tesla used to be as good as a $9,300 BYD but is now going to be worse? No wonder they need to hide behind a tariff wall.
  - apublicfrog 9mo ago
    No, and it seems you're intentionally inferring something there. I am saying that the article is comparing two features that are different and alluding to them being the same to confuse the non-informed reader. I have no idea what a "tariff wall" is, but I don't believe Tesla or BYD pay a tariff in my country.

palata 9mo ago

Once BYD is the most popular car, they will complain that it's probably because of the Chinese government manipulating the people. But the truth is that I would happily buy a BYD car knowing that it's a good product, with no goddamn subscriptions.

Sparyjerry 9mo ago

This article is purely a lie. It still comes with Traffic-Aware Cruise Control with Autosteer free (renamed autopilot).